News: The Other Club Teams Thread

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by DRB300, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. :ROFLMAO:
    Yanks MO is that Dest is soo good. If only the morons he plays with put in the brilliants chances he delivers them, his stats would be mindblowing.
     
  2. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I think Dest sometimes thinks he plays in the NFL and that a moonshot over the goal = 3 points :ROFLMAO:
     
  3. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He is probably auditioning for a spot as a place kicker in case his soccer career ends.
     
  4. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Lmao!!! :D

    He played a lot better today though. He definitely has the raw talent to become a world class leftback, but he needs to mature and work on a few things before that happens
     
  5. I actually see him more as a midfielder. For a defender he's not bulky enough.
     
  6. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He's only 20 though. I think he'll fill out more as he gets older.
    Needs to hit the weight room
     
  7. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Watched Roma vs Lazio. Battle between sariball and Mourinho. Good high intensity game. Lazio winning 3-2 The highlight of the game though was pedro scoring against his nemsis coach who didnt want him at Roma and later joined lazio.

    Roma trailed all through out the game and lazio exposed them badly through the middle channel. The second and third goal respectively came through the middle channel on breaks. Its has been hectic schedule for Roma with 4 games in 11 days and is set to continue with europa fixtures and then other game in Serie A before the international break. They missed pellegrini who was suspened and though they tried hard to get back into the game, Pepe Reina kept them at Bay with some good saves.

    Karsdorp as usually played a very high line along side Zainolo and though his flank was not troubled much, he was too causal on tracking back. On the third goal when Roma initially lost poessession , he was in the middle of the park. if he would have been in position, he could have provided cover to Manicini who was no match to Immbolie's pace on the through ball from the middle and who rounded him up and set up Anderson for the third goal. On a brighter side he kept pedro at bay and hardly let him go outside of him.
     
  8. We don't have thread to put it in, so I put it here:
    Wow.
    Dutch Prime Minister is under heavy protection. So no more bicycle moves anymore?
    Security services have observed socalled "spotters" activities targeting him.
    These spotters are said to be linked to organized crime in the Netherlands, more specific to the socalled "Mocromafia". The suspicion is that preparations are made for either an attack or a kidnapping.
    If so, these criminals are going to find out there's a difference between being a criminal and a terrorist, as what they are are being linked to is terrorism.
     
  9. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Wow.. I just saw that FC Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova) won it in last minute away at Real Madrid. Leading the group with full 6 points!

    With that cool name, it’s hard not to cheer for them… :cool::p
     
  10. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Both of the Sheriff goals were phenomenal. Club has only been in existence for 25 years and is co-owned by two former KGB agents!!:eek:
     
  11. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    From the NY Times
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    October 1, 2021


    Cherish the Feel-Good Stories. They Won’t Last Long.

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    Sheriff Tiraspol’s win at Real Madrid was its second in this season’s Champions League.Jose Breton/Associated Press

    By Rory Smith

    By Wednesday night, the humiliation was complete. In the space of 24 hours, the two teams that had for so long regarded themselves as the pinnacle of modern soccer — the greatest clubs in the world, the inevitable destinations of the game’s best and brightest, the rightful possessors of its biggest trophies — had been humbled, one after the other.

    First, Real Madrid had not only lost at home, it had lost at home to a team making its first appearance in the group stages of the Champions League, a team from the poorest country in Europe, a team from a place that does not, in many ways, actually exist. Carlo Ancelotti’s team now sits second in its group, three points behind Sheriff Tiraspol.


    They might have laughed at that in Barcelona, welcoming the chance to take a little respite from their own troubles by delighting in the demise of their rival. The schadenfreude would not have lasted long.

    The next night, Ronald Koeman’s team fell behind within three minutes against Benfica — the sort of team that Barcelona, in the days of its pomp and glory, would have swatted aside without appearing to break sweat — and went on to lose, 3-0. Barcelona’s record in the Champions League, a competition the club traditionally hopes to win, now reads played two, lost two, scored none, conceded six.

    This is as low as Real Madrid and Barcelona, the twin, repelling poles of the clásico, have been in a generation. Between them, they have won 7 of the last 13 editions of the Champions League. Now, there is a growing possibility that at least one of them will not even survive to the knockout stages of the tournament in the spring.


    Koeman’s job hangs by a thread. La Liga has, in effect, placed Barcelona in financial handcuffs. Real Madrid’s debts are colossal, too, a thunderstorm rolling in from the horizon. Both clubs have lost touch already with the teams they once regarded as subordinates — the Premier League’s elite, Bayern Munich, Paris St.-Germain — disappearing into the distance. Their auras have been shattered and their ambitions winnowed. Their era, by almost every available metric, should be over.

    Yet Real Madrid is currently top of La Liga. And Barcelona, diminished and dispirited, buffeted by crisis at every turn, has a game in hand. If it wins it, it will be only two points behind its old rival. The team that has twice been embarrassed in Europe has not lost a domestic game this season.


    The early weeks of a campaign are the time for the willing suspension of disbelief. The conditions, after all, are right. The sample size is still small. The vagaries of the schedule wield an outsize influence. Injury and fatigue have not yet started to have an impact on resources. It is in the opening bars of autumn that the game’s chorus line gets its chance to shine.

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    Neil Maupay and Brighton narrowly missed a chance to move into first place in the Premier League.Matt Dunham/Associated Press


    There are, at first glance, plenty of those stories around Europe at the moment. Last Monday, before thoughts turned to the week’s Champions League engagements, Brighton had the opportunity to go top of England’s top flight for the first time in the club’s history. It missed out, but a 95th-minute equalizer from its striker, Neal Maupay, meant that Graham Potter’s team has taken 13 points from its opening six games, as many as Chelsea, Manchester City and Manchester United.

    An unheralded Lens, improbably, lies second in the nascent table in France. Real Sociedad is second in Spain, and has not lost a game since the opening day of the season. Mainz and Freiburg are (for now) in contention for European spots in the Bundesliga; so is F.C. Köln, usually little more than a synonym for chaos.


    In Scotland, both Edinburgh teams, Hibernian and newly-promoted Hearts, are keeping pace with a stuttering Rangers at the top of the table. Celtic is struggling so badly that it is below even Dundee United. In the Netherlands, Willem II, from the provincial city of Tilburg, beat PSV Eindhoven last weekend to move into second place.

    In the Women's Super League, both Tottenham and Aston Villa have started encouragingly. In Spain, Real Sociedad’s women have matched Atlético Madrid and Barcelona point for point so far.


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    Tottenham’s women are, for the moment, above more pedigreed rivals in the Women’s Super League.Andrew Boyers/Action Images Via Reuters

    None of these dreams will last, of course. As the season wears on, the decisive factor is — more often than not — the depth of a team’s resources rather than the heights of its ability. In the year that Leicester City won the Premier League, the great exception that proves the rule, it was notable how little Claudio Ranieri, the coach, needed to change his lineup.


    Most weeks, almost uniformly, the core of his team was available. A story that, in hindsight, looks like destiny might have had a very different ending had Jamie Vardy pulled a hamstring, or N’Golo Kanté been the unfortunate victim of a mistimed tackle.

    Most teams, of course, have to endure those injuries, and when they do so, their ambitions suddenly shrink. It is the elite, the teams made fat by years of Champions League revenues and lavish commercial sponsorships, that can afford to carry squads capable of absorbing those blows without any noticeable dip in performance. As winter sets in, cold economic reality bites.


    That moment seems to come earlier every season. All of the uplifting stories of unexpected, early success warrant a second look. Willem II, for example, might be second in the Eredivisie, but it is probably significant that the team at the summit, Ajax, has scored 30 goals and conceded one in its first seven games. Willem II is second, but it is second by quite a long way.

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    Real Sociedad’s men’s and women’s teams are both punching above their weight so far.Vincent West/Reuters


    The same is true in France, where P.S.G. already has a healthy lead over Lens — nine points after eight games, and that after two months in which Lionel Messi has barely featured domestically — and in Germany, where Bayern has scored almost three times as many goals as third-place Wolfsburg. Barcelona’s women’s team, the reigning European champion, has scored 26 goals in four games. It has conceded none.

    The top four spots in the Premier League, too, have been occupied almost since the start of the campaign by the four teams expected to finish there in May. Juventus started the Serie A season abysmally, failing to win any of its first four games; Napoli, by contrast, has clicked almost immediately.


    And yet the most compelling parallel has not been last season, when Juventus limped to fourth, but a few campaigns prior, when the club started almost as poorly, and then won 26 out of 28 games to collect yet another title convincingly.

    Most troubling of all, of course, is Spain, where Real Madrid and Barcelona have diminished at startling, alarming speed, and yet remain out of the reach of all but two — Atlético Madrid and, at a pinch, Sevilla — of their supposed peers.


    There is a reason for that. Even with its finances ravaged, Barcelona can afford to maintain a squad that few others could countenance, the upshot of decades of unequal distribution of the country’s television revenue. This is the ultimate vindication of a risible, self-interested approach: between them, Barcelona and Real Madrid have stifled La Liga of competitive integrity so effectively that their floor is still above almost everyone else’s ceiling.

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    Barcelona may have its problems, but it also has players like Ansu Fati.Lluis Gene/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images


    The same is true of P.S.G. and the Premier League’s Big Four and Bayern Munich, and it is true of Ajax in the Netherlands and Club Brugge in Belgium and countless other teams in countless other leagues. Only in the rarest circumstances would any of the unexpected contenders, currently sitting in positions of unaccustomed prominence, actually be able to turn their early heat into genuine light. But that is not the point.

    Whether Real Sociedad, in the end, wins the league this season is secondary to the idea that Real Sociedad — and by extension every other team outside the established elite — can believe that, in certain circumstances, it could win the league.


    That hope, naïve and unrequited as it might be, is crucial, particularly in an era of such yawning financial disparity. It is vital that teams believe in possibility, in the chance that the elite might stumble, that they might be able to profit, that the stars might align. That it is no longer possible, not really, to sustain that delusion suggests something important has been lost, and it may not come back.
     
  12. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    PSG just lost to Rennes 2-0. Mbappe,Di Maria,Neymar, Messi front 4. Xavi simons should go out on loan imo. No chance of clocking minutes for now in the traffic.

    He surely would have been a starter at Barce if he was there under koeman now.
     
  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    lots of top clubs dropped points this weekend. I wonder how much of this was because of mid-week matches in Euro Competition.
     
  14. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I dont know if anyone has noticed but Nice under christopher Gailter is slowly sneaking up to the league leaders like they did last season . currently third and with one game in hand. a win would see them leapfrog in second place. pretty much is transforming the team the same way he did at Lille in 4-4-2 formation. other than this, its good for the dutch boys there. kluivert is still injured and Stengs has started clocking regular minutes now. given how Gailter wants players to performance in this formation, its surely gone help them develop better in one or two season.

    the projection for 2024 and 2026 is really looking good. if this time its gets messed up, forget about NT winning again. for 2022 you can only hope it will reinforce the team going to 2024-2026 other wise its high likely they will fall short again especially when you have players like berghuis, klaassen and Blind still spearheading the team
     
  15. A lot.
     
  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Thursday matches are the worst!
     
  17. Helmond Cup changed hands with Bayern loss against Eintracht Frankfurt.
     
  18. Fun fact. Of the top leagues all leaders and most top teams lost except Napoli.
     
  19. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  20. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  21. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wijnaldum starts on the bench again today
     
  22. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Watched Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen. 5 goals in first half was pretty much how quick they sealed the deal. BL would wanna forget about this game and move on.just couldnt handle the bayern onslaught. Were simply to good in build up and the link up was alo phenomenal. BL were though missing some of their key players who couldnt make it back after the south American WC qualifers especially in that Midfield.

    Frimpong again had a torrid time with Davies on his side. Not much he could either. Was often sucked in to cover the defense and as result Davies found a lot of space to work and cross. Was also an attacking outlet for BL on the right and once he got subbed, BL just had to park the bus.in last 15- 20 minutes.

    Bakker, this was a good game to look at at his progress. The score line may not tell the true picture but he did quiet well given he had Gnabry on his side. Was robust in his tackles, ariellay had some good interventions and ventured forward occasionally during BL attack. Again cant recall gnabry beating him on the outside but he didnt track gnabry inside runs which proved to be decsive. Not entirely his fault as it was 2 vs 1 in most linkups and the cMs also failed to provide coverup in these situation.

    My assessment on him. He has really improved if I have to compare him from his PSG outings. He looks more confident now and by the end of this season given he has become a regular starter will be knocking on that door come Nations league. Whether it opens or no is another story.
     
  23. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Also watched Juventus and Roma. Was a good high tempo game. Roma lost 1-0 but dominated the game through out. Roma though missed a penalty and lost Zainolo to injury, other wise they were the better of the two sides.

    Karsdorp, as usual was marshalling up and down with Mourinho also instructing him from the sidelines what to do. It a shame though that he has been overlooked given the form that he is in. There is also a very important aspect to note about him at Roma. The set up in the midfield complements his style of play ( 4-2-3-1).He plays a very high line with Zainolo and when caught upfront, the midfielders are there to cover him up . This could becomme problem for him in NT given the current situation. I mean frenkie at 6. He will might have to balance his game to the meet the requisites of the team and would require consistent outings to get into rythym. This is why he should be Dumfries back up or vice versa and getting minutes.
     
  24. Helmond Cup update: Eintracht Frankfurt 1:2 Hertha BSC
    Next: Saturday 23 October Bundesliga, 9. Spieltag Hertha BSC v Borussia Mönchengladbach
    I wish the Helmond Cup was with one of the German clubs that meet one of the Dutch clubs in UEFA competition.
    Would be nice to have it back home:)
     

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