English players Dual Nationality thread #2

Discussion in 'England' started by roverman, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I know we have talked about Patino on the English opportunity thread but this link is relevant here.

    https://cadenaser.com/programa/2021/09/19/carrusel_deportivo/1632072832_092938.html

    I guess it’s nothing really surprising but Spain are wanting Patino to play for them instead of the Country of his birth. To be honest, for some reason and I’ve nothing to base this on other than my gut feeling but it wouldn’t surprise me if we lost him. I guess you could just say I lack faith with our FA. I hope I’m very wrong off course but like I said, it’s a gut feeling.
     
  2. JTay

    JTay Member

    England
    Apr 27, 2019
    They're also interested in Miguel Azeez, they have been for a while.
     
  3. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    The danger is with Patino is that he's very connected to his Spanish heritage when it comes to football. He said that he's very inspired by the Spanish style and his favourite players are all Spanish, except for Saka who he says he looks up to as well. It could happen I guess but I think it's up to England to convince him that we're the better bet at the moment and that there's a real pathway for him at the moment.
     
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  4. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    #1354 ADM99, Sep 22, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2021
    Arsenal's Mika Biereth has been called up to Denmark's U19 squad for the Euro Qualifiers. Scored a hat-trick the other day against Chelsea's 23s.

    I had been wondering for a while what the origin of his name was.
     
  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I was thinking he might have been in contention for an England call up to be honest but obviously not. I know he’s born and raised in England fwiw but I guess that’s another one gone, oh well!
     
  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    We are being pilfered left right and centre. Surely there has to be rules put into place to stop a nation from having all its youngsters snapped up
     
  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nope, if anything they will relax the rules even more!
     
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  8. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Believe it or not, it isn't just us. If you look at the Irish setup, for the first time ever, they are having their players poached by other countries.
    If we're actually in a situation where Irish born players are being poached by other nations, then it just goes to show how diverse the world is becoming.
    It's happening alot with the Irish at the moment. Mind you, you reap what you sowe in regards to them.
     
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  9. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    When you can go back to Grandparents a huge amount of people will have at least one other nationality in this country, would be less with a Team GB rather than England, Scotland, Wales and NI but still so many people with at least 1 immigrant Grandparent out of 4
     
  10. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    It's part of getting youth development right (finally) that there is so much more quality produced but squads don't get bigger - been happening to France for years, should take it a sa compliment and work our nuts off to retain the best boys
     
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  11. Calculator

    Calculator Member

    Aug 6, 2021
    I’m more eager for rules to be put in place to prevent advanced adolescent boys taking the opportunities from and breaking the legs of prepubescent/early adolescent boys because they’re being played together on the basis of being born in the same year. But hey ho, a few years physically bullying slight-framed white boys before realising you can’t do it anymore against adults then disappearing to somewhere in africa or wherever seems to be one of the favourite developmental pathways of the enlightened footballing authorities :)
     
  12. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Yes totally agree
     

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  13. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Ah yes, the famed "English academy to somewhere in Africa" pipeline. What?
     
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  14. Calculator

    Calculator Member

    Aug 6, 2021
    Oh sorry, my mistake. I of course just forgot to realise we were being “pilfered left right and centre” by just the Spanish. All these bloody kids with Spanish surnames dominating our academies with their silky tiki taka nonsense only to be lured away in the end. Oh wait, is it other Europeans too? Like Charlie Thorhammerson? Silly me, I don’t know where i got the idea the vast majority of the duel nationality kids come from somewhere else :)
     
  15. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Your post fairly obviously suggested that players were disappearing to Africa entirely, not remaining in English football and occasionally turning out for African national teams.
     
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  16. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    I don't think it's fair to assume they're eloquent enough to get their message across coherently.
     
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  17. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Am I the only one who is just confused by this whole Conversation now? I've come to discuss duals and this has turned into something else.
     
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  18. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Im glad someone else was confused with that whole episode, lol.
     
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  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Me too. A bizarre post
     
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  20. Calculator

    Calculator Member

    Aug 6, 2021
    Clearly the English football system has developed more players for mostly African national teams than it has produced black English national team players, apparently a forbidden subject in a thread about duel nationality. :speechless:
    And like I indicated in my first post, I wouldn’t be interested in this if they hadn’t changed the playing field for the physical demands placed on 11/12/13/14/15 year olds in the process, who at this point I’d rather be separated by size and weight than by year group .
    Pretend this isn’t completely insane, i find the delusional ignorance some combo of hilarious and sad
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  21. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Lol and apparently, it's still going on ^^^. I'm still no closer to understanding what they're on about but we shall leave them to it.
     
  22. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    The irony of you and Roverman complaining about people misusing the forum. You hardly ever have anything informative to say and instead tell us for the umpteenth time how you can’t understand why anyone would want to play for ‘X shitty country’ or how ‘vulture like X country’ is.
     
  23. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    It's called a bit of light hearted joking. I get that you probably don't know what that is since you are always moaning about someone else's views on this forum.
    I bet you're a right laugh at all the family parties.....
     
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  24. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    The point that I’m guessing Calculator is trying to make is that the English system leans more towards athletes at the expense of players like Patino. This goes a little way to explaining how the demographics of our U19 team are completely out of whack with the general population.
     
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  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Why didn't he say that instead of making an incoherent post. I guess your response will be 'well maybe if u had intelligence u would have understood it'
     
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