USMNT Fitness Status Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, May 19, 2021.

  1. EXALIFTIN

    EXALIFTIN Member+

    Nov 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Miles robinson not in the squad for Atlanta today but Tudn is reporting that he is being given rest and is not because of any injury
     
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  2. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OUT:
    • Christian Pulisic (immediate)
    • Gio Reyna (October)
    • Sam Vines (November)
    • Aaron Long (out past November)
    • Jordan Morris (out past November - back in training)
    • Richie Ledezma (out past November - return is past due)
    • Eryk Williamson (likely out through all of WCQ)
    IN
    • Daryl Dike
    • Yunus Musah
    • Paul Arriola
    • Gyasi Zardes
    • Tim Weah
    • Josh Sargent
    • Zack Steffen
    • Sergino Dest
     
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  3. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone know if Ledezma is still alive? We’re two months past his return date and not a peep. Seems odd.
     
  4. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems there are complications from the injury. We can’t assume he’s going to be the same player when he returns, unfortunately.
     
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  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The last report was the club was hopeful he could be back by mid to late October. Nothing has been heard since but I believe he’s doing some training (though not sure it’s individual or with the team). Can’t imagine we see him any sooner than the late January window.

     
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  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Update on Jordan Morris



    Sounds like he’ll be back soon, maybe in time for the November window?
     
  7. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great news. I don’t see him in the November window though... that’s too soon for such a major injury. Unless of course he’s just annihilating it between here and then.
     
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  8. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Great idea for a thread EB, thanks. Very useful.
     
  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Good news. Way too soon for USMNT involvement, though. Perhaps if he's back to playing with Seattle, we can bring him in to January camp. He's a player whose difference-making asset is pace. Let's see if the pace is back to 100%.

    In the meantime, we have four guys from La Liga and Ligue 1 who weren't part of the last window (Hoppe, Gioacchini, Weah, and Musah; Musah of course has played on the right wing).
     
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  10. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any further news on Reyna?
     
  11. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More than just pace. Pace with strength. And effort and hustle and he plays harder when the game is on the line. He's a lot like Charlie Davies and he made everyone around him better occupying defenders who not only had to match his speed but fend off his strength at speed. We missed Davies and we probably miss Morris more than we know. A fast bruiser that can shoot is pretty valuable.
     
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  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing since the most recent update, which was that Dortmund was hoping to having him back this weekend but his return has been delayed "a bit." With no clarification as to how long it's been delayed till. It's possible I guess he'd play in the games the weekend of the 2nd but it will definitely be the case he won't have seen any time when the roster is named.
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Sure. I like Jordan Morris as much as the next guy.
    I'm not going to say he should be in the USMNT thru the end of the year until I can see that he's back to his full strength with Seattle. That's all.
     
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  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Out much longer and the October window is at risk..........................
     
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  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Other nations don't seem so frail. Why are we so frail?

    Of the group that people seem to consider the core: Pulisic, Reyna, Dest, McKennie, Adams, Brooks ... we've rarely ever had these guys together, but out of 18 potential player-games available in window one, we had, what, 11 max? Four of them were available for less than 2 games?

    Add in Steffen, Weah, Morris, Musah, Vines, Zardes, and Richards all out with some kind of injury issue and we continue to simply never be anywhere close to healthy.

    This window has Reyna out for certain, and possibly Pulisic as well. Good news is that players like Musah and Weah are technically playing but doubtfully in form.
     
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  17. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indeed that group has seen the field together for the national team, nor has the smaller group of Pulisic, Reyna, Adams, and McKennie ever seen the field together at the same time. And Pulisic, Adams, and McKennie have only ever started one USMNT game together have played a total of 114 minutes together over three games.

    For all the talk about Berhalter, I'd for once just like to see what the team looks like when we have all our first choice guys healthy. I know that injuries, suspensions, etc happen but its crazy to me that we've never had the full group together really.
     
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  18. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Or it could be like how Donovan and Dempsey rarely played well together at the same time.

    It'll be interesting to see how Berhalter can put those puzzle pieces together.
     
  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Yeah, I don't think our pieces fit all that well together. It's not some impossible puzzle, but there's a decent amount of skill overlap.

    Pulisic, Reyna and Dest are more similar in terms of skillset than I'd like. McKennie and Adams are really strong players, but we don't have a strong connector -- someone like Jorginho on this team would be an amazing link together.

    I posed this question somewhere else: but can anyone remember a strong passing play between Pulisic and Reyna? They haven't played a ton, but they are placed relatively closely on the field, and they don't seem to interact much at all.
     
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  20. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tyler Adams is injured.... again... this time with a muscle injury.
     
  21. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let’s hope it’s not anything serious but this is why I get worried when we play him 90 minutes for all three games in a 7 game window.
     
  22. Smileton

    Smileton Member

    Richmond Kickers, Ipswich Town FC, FC Kaiserslautern
    United States
    Feb 7, 2012
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Adams may be the player we can least afford to lose for the next window. Let's hope it's a minor problem.
     
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  23. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and the one we knew was the ficklest, so to rely on him so heavily was a dicey prospect

    The 4 players we least could afford to lose were Adams, Miles, Antonee, and Gio; probably in that order. It appears 1 and 4 will be out for this camp.

    So it's going to require our poor button-pushing coach to push the right buttons this time.

    Maybe Wes could prove he's disciplined on the field too by filling in at 6 and actually staying home this time.
     
  24. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well if the Gold Cup taught us anything, Acosta can deputize pretty well at the 6 in his absence. And he’s much better there than he is further up the field.

    Obviously I hope Adams is there though.
     
  25. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It didn't, and he didn't. He struggled because we had more possession than late in GC. And this window we'd project to have even more because there's 2 home games.

    Acosta shouldn't be starting, outside the 1 road game. If Berhalter uses him as general option A in a rotation, it would show me that he lacks ability to analyze player strengths/weaknesses, and adjust accordingly based on situation.

    I would worry we would get sub-standard results again (< 7 pts, should get 9 to make up for last window), at which point Gregg's job would be in jeopardy.

    So Adams better get well soon, for the team and Gregg's security.
     
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