Post-match: San Jose Earthquakes - Real Salt Lake (Wednesday, 9/15) postgame thread [R]

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  1. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
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    man, that’s sig-worthy!

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  2. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
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  3. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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  4. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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  5. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    It's looked like league had been cracking down any body part to the face, so I was little surprised it was over turned. But, when it comes to referees and SJE, things can be unpredictable.
     
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  6. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Even once Nathan returns? :confused:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
  7. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    #82 Quakes05, Sep 16, 2021
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    when was the last time someone not named Chris Wondolowski scored a hat-trick for the Quakes? incredible.

    nice that after his corner kick goal he went over and gave Matias a hug.

    hard to rank those goals in terms of awesomeness but probably 3, 2, 1...for me, with his last one being the best.

    scoring directly off a corner kick is extremely rare, not sure if that's ever happened for the modern era Quakes. Plus their goalie ended up in the back of the net along with the ball for added dramatic effect. goal #2 involved some excellent footwork and a well placed finish...it was a lone effort and involved weaving his way through traffic, keeping his cool and tucking it away. goal #1 was a trademark Chofis strike, creating a little space at the edge of the box and directing a clinical strike right into the top of the net, well past the reach of the outstretched goalie, beautiful.

    what a night for Chofis!
     
  8. TyffaneeSue

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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
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    The applicable section is not "Serious Foul Play" but "Violent Conduct" which states:
    VIOLENT CONDUCT

    Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.

    In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.

    **
    We have in fact seen players sent off for this. I'm guessing it was changed to a yellow because not all conditions were met.
     
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  9. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Did Almeyda pull a Ted Lasso and disappear in the middle of the game? I was sitting over the bench area and couldn't see.
     
  10. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
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    he did. it was unclear why but he returned within a minute or two, without his purple sweater. he later put it back on but you know how these things go. then the wheels fell off.
     
  11. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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  12. Quakes05

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  13. SalinasQuakesFan

    Mar 27, 2010
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    What does it say in regards to hands to the face/neck area?
     
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    There must be some technique whereby you can put on the sweater that’s around your neck without it ever leaving your body. We’ll need that, especially as we head into fall.
     
  15. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
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    Variety is the spice of life.
     
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  16. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    You are incorrect - VC only happens away from the ball. In this case, Kreilach and Beaton were challenging for a ball that was at Kreilach’s feet.
     
  17. bsman

    bsman Member+

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    #92 bsman, Sep 17, 2021
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    Nothing. That only comes into play, as Tyf noted, when not challenging for the ball (I.e. away from the ball.). However, a ref should consider this when determining if an infraction fits into the careless (foul) category or rises to misconduct - reckless (caution), or excessive force (send off) criteria.
     
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  18. tvromero

    tvromero Member

    Jun 2, 2018
    I think MA left the field to barf and then used the purple sweater to cover it up.
     
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  19. TyffaneeSue

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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    I was talking about where the "attacking the head" rules appeared in the laws, not how they applied to this particular case. We've had a few players smacked across the face this season without even a caution given.

    I don't like any rule that uses the word "deliberate" or tries to intuit intent. A jury might consider that interpretation for hours; the referee has a fraction of a second to decide. I'd rather see a word like "avoidable." "He didn't mean to hurt the opponent" is the wrong metric.
     
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  20. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Walls and Fuentes are on loan to the Austin Bold. Casey is 18, Fuentes 19. The fact that they haven't featured for the Quakes yet/much isn't that alarming to me at this point.
    Jacob is also only 19. He has made the bench for the Quakes this season, but, seriously, under what circumstances could/should have he played? It's not like we blow teams away (or are getting blown out) where he can get some late game minutes. And I don't rate him as better than the players playing ahead of him. And not really much in the way of friendlies, but, I expect he will get minutes against Cruz Azul.
     
  21. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #96 JazzyJ, Sep 17, 2021
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    At this point we should be taking small risks and playing some of the kids more to see what we have. 1) It's not clear that we'd be any worse for doing so, and 2) Our playoff chances are at nearly single digit percentage, and 3) it'll help us figure out who we should be keeping on our roster.
     
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  22. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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  23. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    I'm not alarmed but puzzled. There are several teams that have played younger players more minutes then these guys have played. The past two seasons the MLS schedule has been compressed (the Quakes are about to play their third game in seven days). Between these three guys the Quakes have paid 11 seasons worth of salaries for 78 minutes.
     
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  24. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    It sounds like we are building a great academy, but that the connections (connexions, for my British friends) between the academy and the first team are perhaps tenuous at best, based on many years of reading the Academy thread and talking to a guy or two.
     
  25. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    We can’t link our midfield to our forwards, nor can we link out academy to our 1st team :-(
     

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