Real recognize real (or sometimes not!) : the Jesse Lingard thread

Going on the free is the way to go now. A lot of players are doing it plus it also makes the agents more money

 

Maybe he doesn’t want to play for West Ham? Maybe he wants to decide where he plays for what will probably be his last contract?

 

Well good on him, choosing to ride the pine and collect his wages for another season, on top of the year or so he’s already done ******** all for us. All so he can cherry pick a move to a less prestigious club than West Ham - cos no club as good as that is coming near a 30 year old Lingard who hasn’t played for most of a season, is fully out of the England reckoning after losing all of his momentum from that freakish good run, and on the wages he’ll inevitably expect.

Even from the perspective of looking out for number one, it’s dumb as shit.

 

Players got to protect himself.

 

The club should have taken a hard ball approach, either you move or you arent seeing minutes, even in meaningless games. We try the cuddly approach oh he is in our plans and all.

 

He’s massively hurting himself.

 

The club's perspective I would assume is getting him off the books. The transfer fee is relevant to a point, but he is an academy player so I am not sure we would be too butt hurt about it.

Ideally he should have been off the books this summer. Now you can only focus on letting him go in January for minimal fee (probably half of what was quoted). Now that we know his contact expires in summer 2022, we should have really lowered our price to 15-20 mil. If he had multi years left, I would agree that his fee should be larger.

 

Help me understand please.

 

Lingard wasnt going to the world cup anyway. Unless England have a bad injury problem. He has like 4 no.10's in his way.

He couldn't make the Euros squad with the extra 3 spots.

He gets to pick his own club and he gets to earn a decent salary (assuming because of free transfer).

 

I guarantee he doesn’t agree with you about his England prospects. He’s not making these decisions because he’s rational and cutting his ties with the NT. He thinks he can get into the England team by playing for us. That brief run for West Ham has got him making dumb decisions.

And he doesn’t get to pick his own club come the end of the season, when we let him go. He will pick out of the clubs that will be willing to pick up a 30 year old on big wages, who hasn’t played for a season. None will be as good as West Ham. He will get a better signing on fee perhaps, just not a better career.

 

Im 200% sure he doesnt. But he missed the 26 man squad for the Euros and that was with 3 extra players. I'll bet $100 he wont make it.

I don't get why everyone is disappointed with this. We dont want him. We were never going to make enough money of him.


He will be a free agent and im sure West Ham will still gladly take him. They don't have attacking depth. Id wager Leicester would add him for free too. He wouldn't be a full time starter. But he'd probably still double or triple his play time.

Why wouldn't Everton want him? They have nothing there at the moment, basically.

 

What is his weekly wage?

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/west-ham-united-fc/payroll/
According to this thing Lingard is at 75K weekly and Yarmolenko highest paid Hammer at 115K. Lingard probably wanted a higher salary that essentially guarantees him playing time due to it. United said no. Lingard wanted Fred money lol.

 

I think what some folks have missed is that West Ham never put in a serious bid for Jesse. Had they done so, he'd likely have gone. The talk about Jesse wanting to stay and fight for a place was just that.

More than likely Fletcher or Ole sat down with JL and found out what his plans were. He likely said he wanted to play regularly or be sold, preferably England, preferably West Ham.

The problem is that WHU aren't stupid. They know JL is out of contract in a year AND that due to the covid economy in the sport, there are plenty of players who could improve their team who are younger and cheaper than JL.

As for people who think a regular starting role with United is ludicrous for JL remember that he ended the season with goal contributions that would make our team bar Bruno blush.

He also had a similar purple patch under Mourinho. Given the right circumstances, he's an excellent player and he has every right to do what he thinks is best for his career.

 

18 years ago, Cristiano Ronaldo taught Jesse Lingard some skills when he was in the Man United academy.

Today, they both scored and celebrated together at Old Trafford! 🤝 pic.twitter.com/pdTXeKyNax

— ESPN FC (@ESPNFC) September 11, 2021

 

Like Jones sure, wont play a game as soon as Solskjaer is fired.

 

Its trying to get some salvage value where a clean break is better.

 

Don't appreciate how hard this is going to make offloading him on Football Manager...

 

The amount from Jesse sale would have landed us a solid 6.Just saying..

 

Ole wants to keep all the players available so he has the best chance to succeed. He’s not making the difficult decisions.