Post-match: San Jose Earthquakes - Real Salt Lake (Wednesday, 9/15) postgame thread [R]

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    To be fair, Judson should have seen red too.
     
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  2. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    This game he did, otherwise no....:(
     
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  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I don't know what the current LOTG say about it specifically, but the problem I have with the Abubakar foul is that he launched himself into a flying leap from a sprint and went flying into what was more or less Jebo's vertical space. I think Jebo may have taken a few steps backward, but Abubakar went into it from a sprint. The physics of it are such that you're moving much faster in a sprint than you are in a vertical jump - like 5 or 6x faster. So the force involved is much, much greater than it would be if they were more or less jumping from a standing position or a few steps here and there.

    If MLS is serious about limiting career and life endangering concussions they need to make this type of play a straight red. You should not be able to launch yourself from a sprint into a header, unless you know that it is uncontested. Abubakar had full view of what was happening in front of him. He knew it was contested with Jebo. This one really pisses me off.
     
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  4. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

    You have very low expectations. Making the playoffs in MLS:

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  5. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Chofis leads the team in goal-scoring, and he had the game winner in the most recent Clasico, as I recall.
     
  6. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about advancing in the playoffs? The only time it's been done in the post-Golden Age was in... 2010. :eek:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
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  7. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I’m not sure how I feel about this particular play from having watched it live and in the videos. They appear inconclusive to my untrained eye. But the infraction you describe is a targeting foul and straight ejection in college football for the reasons you mention. MLS should have a similar straight red policy.
     
  8. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I need to re-watch it by my impression was that Abubakar was running up into it in more or less of a sprint and Jebo was taking a few steps into it but did not launch himself from a sprint.
     
  9. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If you want to give two playoff games more weight than 30 regular season games, that is your choice, but to me, finishing sixth of eight teams is a massive failure - one with which Quakes fans have become all to familiar. That level of failure, year after year, would not be tolerated by most owners or fanbases. The fact that it stands out as an exemplary year for the Earthquakes shows just how debased this team, its owners, and its fans have become.

    Here is an unretouched photo of a Quakes season ticket fan:

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  10. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, exactly. Well said.
     
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  11. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marie had a bad game. Alanis had a worse game. Yueill hard a worser game. Time to bench Yueill I think. His form since last year needs some internal evaluation between JY and qualified head Dr.

    While I think MA took Judson out because he was a walking red card at that point, I still think it was the wrong decision. I believe he shut down 5 or 6 clear 1v1s in the goal area due to 1) how far back our defensive line is and 2) the defensive line's inability to react (or read) slightly delayed runs into the box. Once he was out it was a field day for RSL.

    I don't get MA's insistence to play Abecasis. He really doesn't add much and TT is so much more effective.

    Not starting our only DP seems like a pretty big problem, no? How does Fierro start over Espinoza? Maybe it was just MA resting players, but I wonder (Espinoza has been bad, but not as bad as Fierro).

    I'd start Cade in Forward over Wondo at this point. At least you might luck into 1v1 and it will certainly give our midfield some more vertical space.
     
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  12. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I thought we were primed to make a run this year. Two things happened in July / August that clearly made us a better team: we acquired Nathan and we acquired Jebo. Unfortunately Jebo got whacked and Nathan's had enough of an issue with cards that he's been missing for key games. And now on top of that Salinas, who really has been one of our best attacking players this year, somehow, at 36, has an "undisclosed illness".
     
  13. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    so many cheap turnovers, passing was poor.

    Chofis has been getting better all season, leads the team in goals, and as @Earthshaker said, each of his three goals last night were quality strikes. I can't even remember the last time Quakes had a hat-trick, anyone know?

    Chofis has been the Quakes best player this year.
     
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Wondo's had some I think - maybe 2012?

    I like Chofis, but as a forward, as he played last night, not as a midfielder. We have to keep him in that wide forward role that he played last night and against LA in that win.
     
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  15. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This game in a nutshell showed just how valuable Nathan is to our defense.
     
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  16. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    have to disagree on TT, Abecasis is better back there. but then I've never seen TT as an MLS-level player.

    Fierro was terrible, possibly the worst I've seen him play. Not starting our DP was a mistake.
     
  17. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Anyone know why Matias left the field? He returned minutes later, :eek: without the purple sweater! Yes, he put it back on but I'm pretty sure that disruption could've been our undoing - that and subbing on Rios, of course (and subbing out Judson and Chofis as mentioned)...

    ...terribly disappointing.
     
  18. vamanoshasta

    vamanoshasta Member

    Aug 12, 2006
    I'm going to disagree on this one. He swung that hand back hard, knowing he would catch someone. Then, when he felt Beason, he gave another shove. I've been playing long enough to know that was intentional. Ref was right there and pulled out his red card. I don't agree that the ref made a clear and obvious error.

    Also, the "foul" that resulted in one of RSL's goals wasn't. Happened right in front of us. Dude wasn't even touched. Danielle even commented that could be a yellow for embellishment.
     
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  19. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    so you have to go back nine years for the last time any Quakes player scored a hat-trick, maybe longer, who really knows?

    I feel bad for Chofis this morning. That should've easily been enough for the win, at home.
     
  20. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    #45 Quakes05, Sep 16, 2021
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    it was so weird to hear them discussing the head injuries in this game and not one single word about Jebo. They must've had strict marching orders "not one word about Jeremy!"

    their silence makes me think its serious and at best he won't be returning this season, hope I'm wrong.

    .
     
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  21. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    He's been the Quakes best offensive player for sure, but I think our best overall player, since he got here, has been Nathan. He is not only lights out on defense, but he's also about our 3rd most productive goal scorer(!), with 2 goals in 11 games.
     
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  22. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not a "hat trick" but... May 18, 2019, Wondo scored four goals against the Chicago Fire.
     
  23. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    In the Almeyda post-game press conference interview: Angry about referees, said he was only appearing to avoid being fined, declined to answer questions. See below:

     
  24. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Wondo had 4 in 2019 against Chicago to set the all time record. (Edit: see Ned beat me to it).
     
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  25. vamanoshasta

    vamanoshasta Member

    Aug 12, 2006
    We felt bad for him last night! We saw him walk across the bridge after the game, head hung low.
     

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