What is the problem with Canada?

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  1. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Didn’t know there were so many Salvadorans in Toronto. Osorio said it felt like an away match for Canada. Sure didn’t look like that on TV.
     
  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would bet a lot came over from the US. Though I agree did not at all seem like a road game on TV.
     
  3. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is absolutely Canada's best chance to get in the cup in quite awhile. They look like they got belief about them.
     
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  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They certainly have the talent. They have a bunch of very good Europe based players with some MLS depth.
     
  5. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Canada dominated last night against El Salvador and now our next match is against Mexico on October 7th away in Mexico. That match I definitely cannot wait for.
     
  6. OlympiquedeMarseille

    Apr 18, 2012
    Ottawa
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    One couple I spoke with drove from Windsor. Another couple of guys came down from Montreal. Not all were from the GTA.
     
  7. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For a second there, I thought you meant Grand Theft Auto.
     
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  8. redandwhite99

    redandwhite99 Member

    West Bromwich Albion
    Canada
    Jun 16, 2021
    Mexico, Canada, US at the top of the table. I know Panama is there too. I predicted Mexico, Canada and the US would be top 3 and I still believe that will be how it ends up.

    We dropped points against Honduras, but had 66% possession. The US game however we sat some of our best players and played a defensive counter attacking game and ground out a draw. I think we can go to Honduras and play a smart professional game and get the draw.

    There's talk of the November window being played in Edmonton. Apparently Canada is also willing to play concacaf gamesmanship with the away sides. How do you think Mexico and Costa Rica will feel about playing soccer in minus 10 degree weather in Edmonton! I can't wait for the next window!

    Good luck to the US as well.
     
  9. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I personally love to see that. Make it cold and miserable for them, that is some excellent CONCACAFery
     
  10. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    I think we play good soccer at home. I think playing in -10 negates our ability to play a good game in those conditions. How do you even head a ball when it’s -10? How many of our players even play in -10? Good idea in theory, not in practice.

    The only team I’d like to play against in Edmonton would be the USA as they will flood Vancouver when we play them there. Not too many Americans will fly/drive to Edmonton. Obviously, that’s in a different window, weather wise.
     
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  11. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awhile back didnt Canada play Mexico in Edmonton and bring them completely to keel? I’m talking their SVE days (their klinsmann)
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on what I've seen in this window Canada are a better team than Mexico, cold weather or no cold weather.
     
  13. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one time that Canada qualified for the World Cup previously, it played the deciding game against Honduras in Newfoundland. Canada, despite its reputation for fair play, is no stranger to gamesmanship.
     
  14. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that is positively amazing
     
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This game?
     
  16. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #4541 Robert Borden, Sep 10, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2021
    Canada's road to Qatar 2022

    Canada defeats El Salvador 3-0 in Toronto


    Depth
    • No Alphonso Davies and Cyle Larin - no problem
    • Scott Arfield wasn't even with the team this window
    • Lucas Cavallini - Not long ago he was our #1 striker
    • Samuel Piette is excellent at shutting down the midfield
    • What is Liam Fraser doing on the team? 0 minutes
    Attack
    • Tajon Buchanan : 1 one goal but at the end of a lot of punishment, VAR?
    • Jonathan David - 1 goal & 1 assist + excellent defensively and with his pressing
    • What he lacks in speed, Junior Hoilett playmaking has been key
    Midfield
    • Atiba Hutchinson played all games, 1 goal and commanded the midfield. Ridiculously good at manoeuvring in tight space and keeping possession
    • Stephen Eustaquio is THE complete midfielder : reads the game like a 6, technical skills as an 8 and can create like a 10
    • Jonathan Osorio is kind of a let down - David Wotherspoon is a superior midfielder for me and he should play way more minutes
    • Good window for Mark-Anthony Kaye
    Fullbacks
    • Ritchie Laryea and Sam Adekugbe - excellent as fullbacks providing tactical flexibility, versatility while freeing Buchanan and Davies to play further up
    Defense
    • Canada CAN defend - Alistair Johnstone is the best RB/RCB I've seen in this country - it isn't close, he's not staying in MLS for long
    • Steven Vitoria is excellent in the right role
    • Kamal Miller had a good complete game he his challenging Scott Kennedy for the role next to Vitoria. Doneil Henry is good to have to manage minutes and deal with injuries / suspensions.
    • Derek Cornelius could be challenging Doneil Henry spot if he plays well in Greece.
    Next window
    • @ Mexico - October 7
    • @ jamaica - October 10
    • vs Panama in Toronto - October 13
    As of today - Canada is #4 in CONCACAF
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    As of today - Canada is #51 in the world. Being in the top 50 will facilitate access to English clubs for Canadians.
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    Canadian Premier League
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    • The top 2 teams faced off and Pacific defeated Cavalry. They will meet again in the quarter-finals of the Canadian Championship on September 22.


    • Forge FC confirms its status as a top 3 club with a win in Ottawa. They play Valour FC on September 15 in the quater-finals of the Canadian Championship while facing Panama's Independiente de La Chorrera in CONCACAF League on September 21
    • The battle for the 4th and final playoff berth is wide open with Halifax showing signs as the team that will claim it. York United are better on paper but can't keep a lead.
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  17. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    I remember watching that. It was pretty funny.
     
  18. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    So, Canada's all-time World Cup Finals record is 1 appearance, 3 losses, and 0 goals. That is pretty bad. At least they qualified once.
     
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  19. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Their opening game in that World Cup, they gave France a very good game, losing by 1-0 on a goal in the 79th minute. France, which had one of the all-time great midfields in Platini, Tigana and Giresse, had won the European title two years before and reached the semifinals of that World Cup. However, given your avatar, I suspect that you already know all that.
     
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  20. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    Yes, I have seen all World Cup Finals games since the 1960's, including the France-Canada game. But don't rewrite history. Canada played 11 guys behind the ball from minute 1 through 90. And France had something like a 30-0 shot advantage. Canada lost their other 2 games 2-0 defending to just keep the score down, it seemed. Not something to take too much pride in if you are Canadian. The U.S. played much better against Italy in Italy in 1990, losing 1-0.
     
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  21. Maximus_Marc

    Maximus_Marc Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 13, 2018
    Great post, thank you!

    Also, congrats on the success of CPL, it looks like a competitive league.
     
  22. Maximus_Marc

    Maximus_Marc Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 13, 2018
    Not that it's relevant to today but Canada missed the 1982 World Cup by 1 point in the round. They advanced to the final 6 in the previous and following cycles while the US did not for 3 cycles in a row until 1989.

    Canada had a good program from the mid 70s to mid 90s until their decline. It's not uncommon to see traditionally good nations to go through these cycles...my thoughts goes to Chile. Canada seems to be back this time around.
     
  23. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True and it’s not like Canada has time for cold weather training, most are coming right from their clubs.

    But trust me, it’s far worse for a Central American or Mexican side to play in cold than Canada, and it’s a distinct advantage
     
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  24. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    It looks like we will very likely be playing Costa Rica and Mexico in Edmonton in mid November. Last November 12, there was a high of -1 and a low of -15. It will be cold, especially at night.
     
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  25. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also have to keep in mind that the world Cup was only 16 teams in the 70's and 24 teams during the 80's and 90's (France 98 saw expansion to 32). Qualification was significantly harder back then.
     
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