Post-match: USA vs Canada 9/6/21

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by tomásbernal, Sep 5, 2021.

  1. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty much the only competitive games we played well in were the two finals against Mexico. And the “playing well” had more to do with snuffing out a dangerous attack versus creating much in the run of play. But at least Mexico is a solid team.
     
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  2. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Right. The pool of coaching talent in international soccer is very small. Although berhalter isn’t very good, there aren’t a lot of very good coaches waiting for the call to be our coach. For berhalter to get canned by the end of the next round of qualifiers, I think we would need to be at or below 6 points, and I doubt that happens. It’s possible, but so is a win against Honduras.
     
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  3. NorcalHockeyhooligan

    Feb 25, 2012
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For me, it wasn't just that Landon scored, it was how he scored. Like you said, the way he HAMMERED the ball into the net screamed: "I'm not going down like this. We're gonna make a comeback!"
    I also remember the 2010 World Cup for being the 1st time in my life I had the flu. I crawled from my (seemed like) death bed to watch the USA-England game. I barely mustered a cheer when the US scored...I just lay on the coach like warmed up dead meat.
     
  4. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    His average position on the passing map is absurd... We were more-or-less playing a 5-2-3
     
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  5. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This could get ugly quickly.

    With the clubs our guys play at they know a fraud when they see it.

    I'm sure there's things Puli doesn't like about Tuchel, like not starting him in the UCL final but a guarantee he has a great deal of respect for Tuchel and everything I've seen suggests Tuchel's tactical acumen and preparation is top of this game.

    Imagine going from that to a Swedish 2nd division failure....the cycle after you failed to qualify.
     
  6. jazzhands

    jazzhands Member

    Feb 9, 2017
    Portland, OR
    I blame Weston, not US Soccer.
     
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  7. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what makes it even crazier is that thats exactly the time to tell the guys- knock it around the back. make canada chase. recycle recycle recycle. only play attacking balls if canada comes out of their shape...

    in other words our first half game plan.
     
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  8. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bradley gets us where we need to go. Bob. Not Michael.
     
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  9. fishmonger

    fishmonger Member

    Jul 2, 2014
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    We're all just pissed that's all. I'd like to see Gregg gone because his teams are just painful to watch. And I'd like him gone now. But realistically, no one is getting the boot for tying on the road and dropping two points to a hardscrabble Canadian team. We can take Hondo, but it won't be because of the coach; we've beaten them down there before, we can do it again. But where's the friggin "grit"coming from on this team?
     
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  10. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    You had the flu in June?
     
  11. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The roster is fine.
     
  12. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bob Bradley.
     
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  13. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    McKennie can as well
     
  14. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clapping for the fan support is not something you hold against him.
     
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  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup they’ve been grooming him for this for awhile and they aren’t going to panic and fire him midseason unless things get really bad. And I think they’re realistic given all the players they lost. Our best hope for Marsch is him getting the job for the 2026 or 2030 cycle.
     
  16. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marsh would say nope.
     
  17. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    I'm fine with the roster too.

    Pulisic and Reyna being injured/sick is hard. Most countries just can't replace the #10 for Chelsea and #7 for BVB easily. That plus CM being by far the thinnest position in our pool and our CM for Juve deciding to do something dumb and get himself suspended when the next man up is a CM for the Colorado Rapids...

    We are testing the hell out of our depth very early and it's a shame.

    We have some depth but not that much... we need our pool to be healthy, playing and in form... this window we had almost none of that... hopefully next window we have more of it... Hoppe gets going... Cannon maybe gets going... Christ Richards gets going... Maybe Pomykal makes some strides....

    My biggest concern is the quality at the CM position... it's just not there outside of McKennie and Adams.
     
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  18. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    I’ve said multiple times that I expect to cruise through qualifying. We should finish first, and if we don’t it should be because Mexico plays well and we have a lot of bad luck.

    I’m just realistic enough to look around in international soccer and see how few teams actually win prettily. England is fresh off a Euro final and a World Cup semifinal playing just as conservatively and aesthetically unspleasant soccer as we have under berhalter.

    we generally play hard and don’t hurt ourselves. The midfield has consistently been dysfunctional under berhalter, and the attack impotent for long stretches, but those are hardly the only things that matter.
     
  19. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    Lleget created nothing all game, you know the point of a midfielder yet he p
    Honduras away with a depleted and exhausted roster. Not looking good so far.
     
  20. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It wasn’t Yedlin’s fault
     
  21. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please forward that info to Honduras.

    I'm sure they'll be shaking in their boots.
     
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  22. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I think if Donovan and Dempsey had to play for Berhalter, the goals would have dried up
     
  23. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Canada had a world class player and he showed up. The US does not seem to have one or he/they did not show up.

    Also, I would have no complaints if McKennie was benched until 2023. How do you get in trouble for ignoring COVID rules multiple times?
     
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  24. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on severity - which we don’t know but nice of you to pick a side right away. I’m not all for jumping to suspensions. There are multiple ways to handle breaking “team rules” or whatever.
     
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  25. Magic Sponge

    Magic Sponge Member

    May 13, 2000
    Nashville, TN USA
    I do want to add that, in terms of crowd, Nashville was good. 42k at game. Frankly we didn’t have a whole lot to cheer for but stood the whole game.
     
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