News: 2021 Other Teams Discussion Thread (spoilers)

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  1. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Yes that's 100% a tactic. But your competitors best players.

    Some City players are not happy. Bernardo Silva is one. He may be going to Atletico Madrid.
     
  2. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    well, he's going to PSG - so, that's that
     
  3. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    The mess surrounding the "departure" of Richie Burke from the Spirit is becoming a dumpster fire of biblical proportions in less than 24 hours. Baldwin is making Snyder look like a novice when it comes to team wide issues of inappropriate behavior. Yeesh.
     
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  4. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Section 107

    Section 107 Member+

    DCU
    United States
    Jul 18, 2018
    more like inshallah.
     
  7. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    Najar drew a foul in the box by one of Canada's thuggish defenders. Honduras up 0-1 in Toronto.
     
  8. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    And he snuck forward in the 2nd half to make a pinpoint cross to header that hit the post.
     
  9. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #259 tallguy, Sep 3, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2021
    Not very confidence inspiring. We've now got some of players playing for major European clubs, but the problem is that they're role players or substitutes. I'd almost rather have a few hardmen guys who are playing day in and day out, even if it's only in MLS. Otherwise stated, I think that we need a Kyle Beckerman-type or a Clint Dempsey-type.
     
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  10. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think that was the issue, personally. Every guy's playing in a different league - it's kind of crazy, and they haven't played together for 3 months. A lot of the individual play was good, but the connections just weren't there yet, and there's only so much a given American playing in a top 5 league can do against two or three Salvadorans on the dribble.

    Somewhat related, we defended well, but when you prioritize that, you often lose the numbers game when you try to fast transition. We needed to be more patient with our build up play or drop fewer players in defense (in essence, have the 8/10s stay out of our final third). We shot the gap a lot, trying to break two lines through the center of midfield, which is great, if you've got numbers in support. We often didn't.

    Credit to ES. They played a level above last night and took full advantage of their home field. Their style is, honestly, kind of irritating. It's like they're playing volleyball through the midfield, which makes me think the pitch must have been intentionally miserable. All in all, impressed with them and their coach, who should be coaching our U-23s, and who I hope we pay a massive amount of money to get.
     
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  11. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So...Pulisic?
     
  12. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Najar was the best player on the field for either team.

    Pass?
     
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  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Heretic.
     
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  14. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Watched until the end, sleep inducing so it was easy to nod off shortly thereafter. Quick take: Dest, de la Fuente, Aronson and Sargent were poor. Dest is not a LB and he never was much of a shut down defender. Add the two and you get what you got last night. Robinson, Ream and Turner were solid, as was Yedlin for the most part. Adams was fine and McKennie was fine, but his touch failed him several times. Reyna was the only consistently dangerous forward and had no one to work off of. Too much one on one or one on two or three dribbling and way too much of the standing around with the ball trying to figure out what to do next. Played right into ES's hands. My guess is we see Pefok for Sargent, Pulisic for de la Fuente and either Acosta or Lleget for Aronson on Sunday -- at least I hope so. Maybe Dest goes to RB and Bello takes over on the left or maybe just Robinson replaces Dest. However, given that Canada only got a point and Mexico struggled at home against a depleted Jamaica, I can't quibble too much about getting a road point. Now, if the lads sleep walk through the Canada game at home, we are in big trouble.
     
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  15. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Preferably before you dribble into a line of opposing players, ya. This is Concacaf, bitch, not Ligue 1!!! :D
     
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  16. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    like Hoppe?
     
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  17. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah. What I meant was that we need the kind of player that I call a "mudder," a tough hombre who may not have impressive European credentials but who plays aggressively to win under adverse weather or "parking the bus" conditions. Beckermann & Dempsey came to my mind as exactly the kind of player we needed in El Salvador. Back in the day, John O'Brien, Cherundolo, Headcase and McBride were those kind of guys. And, another thing, we've finallly got guys playing for World Class teams but only Pulisic (who is not an automatic starter) & Dest are getting quality playing time.
     
  18. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    McKinnie and Juventus? Reyna and Dortmund? Adams and Leipzig?
     
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  19. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The US might be in trouble. For all their individual talent, the depth is lacking in places, and there's no one who can consistently score.
     
  20. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    The midfield cant create chances for strikers.

    I don't understand why Kellyn Acosta is rated so highly. I also don't get why Lleget started that game. Its like a midfield of 3 guys who can run, but not create, dribble or pass forward.
     
  21. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    #271 Q*bert Jones III, Sep 6, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2021
    I was pretty upset last night but this morning, I'm more of the mind that the USA wasn't systemically rotten. They just ran into Canada's golden generation. I'm not ready to give up after game 2 of a 14-game season. A win in San Pedro Sula would, theoretically, put them in perfectly fine shape. Theoretically.
     
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  22. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Someone here posted that the NT needs "hard men" in some spots and, while I'm not sure that is "necessary", there is a problem here. The problem is all youth and no experience. Last night, the only "older", with substantial WCQ experience players, were Brooks and Yedlin. Lletget is "older" but injuries have limited his NT experience. None of those 3 guys is an offensive fixture and both Lletget and Yedlin would not be in the starting XI save for squad rotation or injuries.
    Right now, the only two guys who seem to get it are Adams and Pulisic. McKennie, who could be a leader, appears to be a dipshit (2 covid protocol violations within the past year) and Aronson, de la Fuente, Sargent and Reyna can't buy a drink anywhere in the US. Asking talented, but very young players, to rise to the occasion is a real crap shoot. I actually think this team will be much better in the next qualifying round as all of these guys will have another 4 years of international experience and most still will be in their mid-late 20s. Believe it or not, it actually is a shame that Zardes is injured -- not because he is a great talent, but the guy is a baller and this squad needs more guys like that.
     
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  23. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    The roster for this window seemed really weird to me too. Wasn't it like 5 midfielders and a million forwards? Obviously those designations aren't written in stone but it felt odd.

    And I don't understand why Greggggg is afraid of putting Pepi out there when he's in good form.
     
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  24. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's the other way around. He brought 5 midfielders, and 10 defenders. :rolleyes:
     
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  25. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Switch to a 3-4-3
     

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