P/I/P Game 18: LA Galaxy vs Vancouver Whitecaps, 8/8/21, 5:00 PT on Spectrum Sportsnet

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  1. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    #201 73Bruin, Aug 11, 2021
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    Don't be surprised if Alverez goes to the bench. My guess for the Minnesota/San Jose games is a starting lineup of:
    ------------------------ Joveljic -------------------------
    Cabral ------------- Vazquez ------------Grandsir
    ---------- Raveloson------------ JDS ----------------

    I see Seb being a sub with Sasha and Efrain being brought in if Vanney wants more offense. For Colorado, I see Seb taking Vazquez's place.
     
  2. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

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    Oct 16, 2013
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    I think we're at the point of squad rotation based on who were playing and fresh legs. I can see him rotating out Cabral or Grandsir a bit, too now that we have enough extra players.
     
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  3. The Beautiful Gamer

    The Beautiful Gamer BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 26, 2008
    Minneapolis, MN
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    If Chicha is not ready, there is a real good chance that you see Cabral being the sub and Llegett being the starter. I also see Vazquez and Sasha going back to being super subs as well so Efra gets the start if Vanney thinks Cabral is just not going to get it done.

    ----------------------- Joveljic -------------------------
    Alvarez ------------- Llegett ------------Grandsir
    ---------- Raveloson------------ JDS ----------------
     
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  4. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    It’s going to be a little weird picking lineups now that Jona, Seb and Joveljic are available. If everyone stays healthy then 8 regular starting positions (9 if Chich returns) are pretty much set in stone:
    ------------------------ Joveljic -------------------
    -----X -------------------- Y -------------------Z
    -------------Raveloson----JDS------------------
    ------------------back four ------------------------
    --------------------Bond----------------------------

    So now we have 5 or 6 players — Cabral, Seb, Vazquez, Alvarez, Grandsir, and possibly Sacha competing for just 3 starting spots. And if Chich comes back we will be down to only 2 starter openings for those 6. I would say strong arguments could be made for 5 of those starting and the 6th one is a DP. Vazquez, Alvarez and Sacha create goals. Seb is a leader, good in possession and plays more defense than the others. Grandsir is the workhorse of our midfield.

    Obviously depth and competition for playing time is good. And of course we will rotate starters. But it is still a tricky spot. At some point we need to settle on a starting 11. Which 3 of the above midfielders —or 4 if Chich is back — do you bench when the season is on the line?





















































    —————————

    ---------- Raveloson------------ JDS ----------------
    Villafana/Acosta—Williams—Coulibaly—Araujo
    —————————Bond—————————

    So that means we have five players — Cabral, Vazquez, Seb, Grandsir and Alvarez — fighting for 3 midfield spots.

    J Seb is better at defense, Vazquez creates more offense. Cabral is a “DP” and brings speed and mobility but Alvarez is the better offensive player and better at maintaining possession. And Grandsir is our most consistently active midfielder and is good at moving us into the final third. Assume we are playing the MLS CUP on Saturday
     
  5. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    ————Joveljic——Chicharito
    Grandsir——Dos Santos——--Lletget
    ————-——Raveloson
    Villafaña—Williams—Sega—--Araujo
    —————-——Bond

    If everyone is healthy then I think I start this. With Vazquez as first offensive sub. I just don’t like starting players that I know can’t go the full 90+ (Vazquez) and right now I’d start Lletget and Grandsir ahead of Cabral.
     
  6. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    And Alvarez and Sacha?
     
  7. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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    United States
    Yes. In a must win game this weekend, I'd say Cabral is number 8 on my offensive depth chart of starters. Actually probably 9.

    Chich
    Joveljic (based on pedigree and last season's play)
    Grandsir
    Lletget
    Vazquez (probably number 2 except I don't see him being able to go 90 - so he's the super-sub in a must-win game)
    Kljestan
    Alvaraz
    Zubak
    Cabral
     
  8. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

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    #208 Bilgediver, Aug 13, 2021
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2021
    How weird is it that we actually now have depth charts for each position.
    My perspective of Greg's Depth Chart

    FW: Chicharito, Dejan, Zubak, Cabral
    Winger: Grandsir, Cabral, Vazquez, Efra, Dunbar
    ACM: Vazquez, Lletget, Sacha, Efra
    DCM: Dos Santos, Rayan, Saldana
    CB: Coulilaby, Williams, Steres, Depuy
    RB: Araujo, Coulilaby, Fisher
    LB: Villafana, Niko
    GK: Bond, Klinnsman

    All other youngsters are questionable? I don't know enough.
    Some players are in twice, italics are a players other position they have been played, but clearly not their primary position.

    Note this is my perspective of Greg's Depth chart, not "mine". And its difficult to really bring up certain players because of their age. Vazquez and Sacha are to me players who could easily start based on skill level and what they bring to the table. But I would definitely not consider them full 90 starters. Its also tough to rate certain players as to different positions, which is why I was going for different "groups".
     
  9. TrickHog

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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Good chart on the depth.
     
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  10. The Beautiful Gamer

    The Beautiful Gamer BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 26, 2008
    Minneapolis, MN
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Yep. I 100% agree that this will be our lineup going into the playoffs if everyone is healthy with the first choice subs being Cabral, Vasquez, Sasha, Alverez, and Saldana, Depuy, Steres Klinnsman.
    Depening on tired legs or tactic changes I am cool with anyone of them coming into the game.
     
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  11. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    The only quarrel I have is that I would rank Rayan ahead of JDS at DCM.
     
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  12. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

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    Oct 16, 2013
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    Its possible, I was just trying to gauge Greg's depth chart, not my own. Mine would look a little different (not drastically but I think he's underselling Seba, for example, and I would put him out on the wing as well, and I agree Rayan has overtaken Jona as the best DM)
     
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  13. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

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    Oct 16, 2013
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    United States
    Now that we have a full squad, any thoughts on breaking out this section as a new Thread?

    Also, after the last game I would change the "FW" position and put Cabral in third behind Dejan.
    After the interview where he admitted he's never been deployed as a lone striker before here, and the linkup play he had with Dejan, he's grown on me in that spot, which adds a 2nd striker depth now.
     
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  14. LEM-LAG

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    I blamed Seba after the Vancouver game. But after knowing what was going on with his family, I feel sorry for it.
     
  15. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    United States
    had that already happened? I thought the tragedy was afterwards. Poor family.
     
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  16. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Great chart!

    But throw Acosta a bone and at least list him third on the LB chart. :)

    One thought that comes to mind is about Neal (the young centerback). He played a lot in preseason. I think the coaches rank him high on our young player list. His injury timing was unfortunate as he would have gotten some minutes for sure in the first half of the season. His mom (on twitter) implied he traveled to Minnesota but he wasn't in the 18. He may be worth keeping in mind as far as young talent goes.
     
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  17. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

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    Oct 16, 2013
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    I keep forgetting about Acosta, we've seen him play once or twice this season?
     
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  18. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    I think he traveled, but with Los Dos to their game in Oakland. He is definitely a player to keep an eye on in upcoming seasons - could be our next Daniel Steres.
     
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  19. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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    United States
    Once. When Villafana went out injured in this game...
     
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  20. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    ohhhhh I misunderstood. that makes a lot more sense.
     
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  21. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Twice.

    He came in after we all turned off the match at Dallas.

    So two appearances. Named in a lot of 18s. I think they must have an understanding that he's getting a season's worth of training and recovery on that ACL but he can't be counted on really so he's not mad that we brought in Niko.
     
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  22. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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    United States
    Uhhh, what Dallas game? Don't know what you are talking about.... Yeah, no recollection of that game.

    ;)
     
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