The Red Baron: Josh Sargent at Norwich City

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Oct 11, 2016.

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  1. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
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    SV Werder Bremen
    Pretty wild ending here
     
  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Certainly not a boring game.
     
  3. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow... just wow. Crazy.
     
  4. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Werder Heck is He Going Next: Sargent at Bremen
     
  5. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Keeper acting like this is a cup final.
     
  6. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    all the way down to a goal per match

    crazy they didnt let him take that pk at the end
     
  7. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Pretty damning indictment of the Gold Cup that after watching it for the past few weeks this B2 game looked like a Champions League final in quality.
     
  8. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Pulisic tried that once and it didn't work out well.
     
  9. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To paraphrase James Murphy: score yrself clean (from Bremen), Josh.
     
  10. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
    Club:
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    If they keep leaking goals like a sieve they'll have to press to score which should help Josh. Still want him to leave, as I don't think Bremen is doing him any favors but at least he's a nailed on starter for them.
     
  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    wait the season has begun? I thought they were still in pre-season
     
  12. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this was week 2 of the 2bund
     
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  13. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    So, that got them promoted, right?
     
  14. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    It does "vault" them into 3rd... so we could call it now and go to playoffs.
     
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  15. m vann

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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
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    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know recently the it thing to do is bash, write off, or throw shade at Sargent - myself included - but it appears he’s just put his head down this preseason, worked hard, and it’s paying off. Good to see him score a brace today. I think we should all applaud him. Let’s hope this form continues.
     
  16. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    The US fan obsession with the striker flavor of the month is the best part of this site.

    Sargent for a bit, then he stinks. Dike is going to dominate the EPL. Nope he stinks. Bring Zardes back cuz he scored a goal against Qatar. If altidore gets hot for Toronto he's an option for qualifying.

    I've said it countless times but everyone needs to chill with Sargent. He's 21 and like 5 guys younger than him did better in the Bundesliga. RELAX!
     
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  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I will say that for this game in particular, Josh often occupied space more like a RM in a flat 4, even cutting inside to overlap outside the 18. He was in no way, shape or form a "striker" in this game. At most he was a RW in a morphing 4-5-1/4-3-3. And, to my eye, based on a massive data base of 1 game (and my general impression of his play) it's a good look for him - at least at this level. I 1/2 joked earlier that he should reinvent himself as the Murican Mount, but I have a feeling (his feynei goal notwithstanding) he is going to find more success in general - and perhaps even in scoring goals - if he's encourage to cover more ground in the midfield and keep making those late runs.
     
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  18. m vann

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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
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    Denver, CO
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    #8243 m vann, Jul 31, 2021
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    Agreed. Here, less than other places, tends to take a more level headed approach with the flavor of the month. However, we still fall victim to it, myself included. I do have to tell myself repeated he’s 21 and Bremen have been crap since his arrival.
     
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  19. dams

    dams Member+

    United States
    Dec 22, 2018
    Doesn't seem like many have completely written Sargent off to me. One thing to keep in mind though is that flavor of the month at that 9 spot might be relevant at this point considering WCQ starts in around a month. In any event, Josh will be at qualifying and he looked great today, I don't care if it was B2, he showed quality.
     
  20. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    I didn't say anyone wrote him off. I said everyone loves the shiny new thing, until they don't.

    Zardes (who I actually like) isn't even talked about, then scores a goal against Qatar and is now a possible starter.

    And if you go back over the threads, the Sargent consternation is pretty entertaining.

    Unless you're Haaland, you're not a star at 21. No, Sargent doesn't need to turn into a right wing, or a right mid, or a DM, or a left back. He'll be a striker, he'll be a good striker, and he'll likely be the best striker we've ever had. Just gotta wait for more than a year.
     
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  21. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    This will be interesting to watch but he has played relatively little as striker recently. Time will tell but my prediction is his future lies a bit further from goal, for the most part. He’s not going the Chris Albright route, but I bet he ends up not playing CF much if he stays at a higher level.
     
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  22. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Double-edged sword. He may be more effective further away from goal, but end up having a lower professional ceiling. Anyone know if he's currently playing the wing because they have better options at striker, no better options at winger, or both?
     
  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Fullkrug is a seasoned pro, fwiw. He seemed to be the lone/central striker today as well as last week. The site I just looked at called it a 4-1-4-1 with Josh as the RM, which looked pretty accurate to my eye. Both games this season have lined up fairly similarly. I think Josh played striker in the Feyenie friendly 2nd leg but Fullkrug was not in the side and Josh wasn't in the team for the 1st game.
     
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  24. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I concur. Even if he only ever scores 5 goals in the Bundesliga every season (provided he gets promoted and stays up) he could easily do that for the next decade and still be the top American goalscorer in a top 5 league.
     
  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Kid puts in a shift and he's still in my Starting XI.

    What he's proving at this point is that he can score on second division teams. Which is good enough to be top choice, together with all he has shown when playing with the NT.

    Hoppe showed well on the wing/wide forward role, not as a striker. He's sort of taken the Jordan Morris role.
     

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