Tokyo Olympics QF: USWNT vs Netherlands, July 30, pre/pbp/post

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  1. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
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    thanks, Wiegman will change tactics they say she gets 'horse whispered a lot from some of the genuis Dutch men's coaches, and those are.......dunno, don't follow broso much
    I would start Williams-Morgan-Press, then sub in Heath-Loyd-Rapinoe around the 60-75 min mark winning loosing or tied, their experience would be invaluable later on, especially if it goes to PK shootout.

    I would start S Mewis, but even if she only comes in at the 60 minutes, she'll play half the game if it goes an full 120 min.

    O'Hara-Dalhkemper-Davidson-Dunn(as I don't think the Brunski can handle guarding Miedema)

    last sub as fire distinguisher for an injury or wherever needed
     
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  2. edcrocker

    edcrocker Member+

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    For tomorrow's game, I don't think getting players experience should be particularly important. The Olympic quarterfinals is a major event. It should be much more important to try to win. And although Lynn Williams has a lot of good qualities, I, prima facie, wouldn't start someone against Holland in an Olympic quarterfinal who played only 16 minutes in the group stage.

    But your starting line-up is thought-provoking. It's certainly younger and faster than mine.

    Would you start Sam Mewis instead of Lindsey Horan? I'd start Horan. For one thing, the latter has played better than the former so far in this tournament. For instance, Horan had a nice goal against New Zealand, and Mewis had a number of turnovers against Australia.

    Is "Brunski" Tierna Davidson? If so, what reason is there to believe that she can't handle guarding Miedema? Davidson has looked good this tournament. However, Davidson is very young. Also, you may have watched her play much more than I have. I hadn't focused on her play prior to this Olympics.
     
  3. sweepsit

    sweepsit Member

    Oct 25, 2016
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    Sauerbrun. They put Davidson in their lineup as a starter in the post...
     
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  4. FanOfFutbol

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    I do not think it matters who plays or who starts or even who is available. What matters is how whoever plays and how they are instructed to play and how much damage the three group games did to the team's motivation. In the group games they never directly confronted what has been going wrong for the last year and a half or more. The team has been told to "slow down" and "take it easy" for so long that it will be extremely difficult to change that attitude. Players learn how the coach wants them to play over time and suddenly switching to a higher tempo and greater pressure will be very hard.

    I believe, as I have said before, that if they do manage to win it will be because the Dutch play more stupidly than the US and I doubt the Dutch will play that stupidly.

    Most people do not know how hard it is to overcome the stupidity of playing slow for a long time.

    I hope I am wrong but it would not at all surprise me if this match is the last the US plays at this Olympics.
     
  5. jackdoggy

    jackdoggy Member+

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  6. FanOfFutbol

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    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
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  7. PortiereNuovo

    PortiereNuovo Member

    Jun 20, 2019
    They can hardly throw him under the bus before the match, can they. There will be plenty of time after if the results don't go well.
     
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  8. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

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    They can just ignore what the idiots on the bench tell them and play good soccer instead of whatever the coaches have them playing.
     
  9. Semblance17

    Semblance17 Member+

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    Apr 27, 2013
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    *extinguisher?

    Or was this intentional?
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    It's a lot easier to identify a fire than to put one out, and the consensus on this forum over the past week is that the team has, so far at this tournament, been better at doing the former than the latter.
     
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  10. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

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    #60 MRAD12, Jul 29, 2021
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    Nonsense
     
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  11. jackdoggy

    jackdoggy Member+

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    Have I ever disclosed that I’m an Olympic Gold Medalist??...??
    Full Disclosure: It was my neighborhood Olympics and the event was the beer chug relay………anchor leg beeeochzzz.

    28,800 seconds to Kick.
     
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  12. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

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    #62 MRAD12, Jul 29, 2021
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    More nonsense
     
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  13. Bob Lamm

    Bob Lamm Member

    Mar 7, 2016
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    Thank you, MRAD12. I could say more, you could have said more, but I respect how concise you were.
     
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  14. CookieRules

    CookieRules Member

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    Vlatko Andonovski is nonesense!
     
  15. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

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    Jan 10, 2008
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    I do not think there is a consensus on that. Some posters simply do not repeat themselves over and over.:geek:
     
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  16. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
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    The 21st century definition of "consensus..."
     
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  17. blissett

    blissett Member+

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    Yes I do.

    Men and women alike. If someone is excused for personal reasons, it's not my business to know what these reasons were. If nobody could confirm anything, it's just a sign that those reasons, being personal, were well protected, as I expect they should be, and as I know I would want them to be if they were mine.

    I assume that, if she pulled out from an high level friendly game (let's remember anyway that it was just a friendly game) "just hours before kickoff", it was an emergency and those personal reasons were indeed pressing. Why should we think otherwise? Frankly, the way you're insisting about this point since months is well beyond ridiculous, it's even offensive to Wiegman. In your "alternative universe", how do you explain her absence? Fear? Carelessness? Incompetence? Unprofessionality? Are you aware of how absurd each of these theories sound? In your opinion, Dutch federation would have accepted an unreasonable excused absence without blinking?

    I'll repeat what I said, to make it clear: Sarina Wiegman probably had a personal emergency that, for very reasonable motivations, she didn't want to disclose to the world (even if we live in an era where it seems like people should feel compelled to share any detail of their lives with anyone else). If you preemptively don't believe her and try to build strange conspiracy theories to explain her absence in a different way, you're acting not differently from those lunatics who stalk victims of crimes by claiming that these crimes have never happened and that they invented them to push some kind of political agenda.

    Stop it! There was no mystery at all to discover in that meaningless incident!
     
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  18. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
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    R: JACEWICZ Kate (AUS)
    AR1: KIM Kyoung Min (KOR)
    AR2: LEE Seul Gi (KOR)
    4O: YAMASHITA Yoshimi (JPN)
    VAR: AL MARRI Abdulla (QAT)
    AVAR: BIN JAHARI Muhammad (SGP)
     
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  19. Longtimesub

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    May 18, 2009
    The US game with Netherlands will be shown live on Telemundo channel...A Spanish language channel...You do not need a cable subscription...

    NBC will be showing TODAY show when the US game is on...
     
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  20. hotjam2

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    It’s going to be on NBC Sports Network
     
  21. Longtimesub

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    #71 Longtimesub, Jul 30, 2021
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    I was just trying to help out people, living in US, who do not have cable...Those people do not have to look for game stream links on Internet...They could watch the game on TV with Spanish commentary...

    The game, on Telemundo, could be recorded on a DVR which could record regular TV programs...A hard drive has to be connected to the DVR...
     
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  22. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

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    #72 lil_one, Jul 30, 2021
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    Williams gets the start. Lavelle and Press get a rest. Davidson not even in the 18 (Sonnett the only available sub for the defenders).

    EDIT to add: Lavelle is the most interesting to me. I'd agree that she probably needs some rest, but she has played well against the Netherlands in the past (scored a goal in each of the last two times we've faced them). Plus, I think Lavelle has been one of the most in-form players of the attackers in this tournament (with the caveat that the team as a whole hasn't looked very in form).
     
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  23. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

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  24. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

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    Vlatko looking for a more physical starting lineup to wind down the Dutch & then maybe later bring on finesse?

    just wonder if Lloyd suppose to be the playmaker(while Lavelle not in?
     
  25. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    Interesting that Van de Sanden is starting. She's been quite underwhelming, lately, compared to the player she was in 2017.
     
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