2021 Gold Cup

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  1. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Wow. Second VAR PK for Mexico—and no both correct.
     
  2. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    C’est la var

    Ref never calls that if he thinks it’s in the PA.
    He calls it and VAR shows it inside, his hands are tied.
     
  3. voiceoflg

    voiceoflg Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    The AR was behind the corner flag instead of closer to the PA on the goal line for that PK. Thoughts on that?
     
  4. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm a little surprised there wasn't a VAR review for a potential red on that yellow card to Mexico. A cleat-stomp right on the ankle... seemed pretty bad for me.
     
  5. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    the soccer gods intervened. Looked like there wasn't even any contact on the "foul"
     
  6. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    ni reason to come in with VAR and GLT
     
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  7. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019
    Honestly it's probably to get back to the line (or stay on rather) quicker... I mean whats a few more yards when you're staring straight onward?
     
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  8. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    it’s specific to instructions that have been given in some competitions with VAR. Since the powers that be want GK infractions called by VAR and they are using GLT, there’s no reason in these games for the AR to come in from the touchline.
     
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  9. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    are they using GLT in this tournament? I thought that requires special, calibrated cameras
     
  10. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not.



    I see some contact studs a bit above the ankle. I definitely see some studs on top of the foot. But the movement of the foot is down the leg onto the foot and not through the leg. And I can't help but notice that he seems to heel the ground rather than go through the opponent with full force. If any of this convinces the VAR that no red card is supportable, then it's check complete.

    This being determined to be a clear and obvious error in a game that featured yet another unpunished hand to the throat during a mass confrontation (not to mention the strike that FOX caught on their replays)? Now that would surprise me.
     
  11. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019
    Yeah, they're still yelling "P*T*O" on the GKs for sure...

    edit: Yep. Offensive chants referee procedure. Here we go.
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh look, once again its not until the end of the game that the ref stops the match for the chant. Send them to the locker rooms, otherwise this is just performative crap.
     
  13. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    This is so stupid.
    If you want to stop it, penalize them. if you don’t, then play on.
    But this is not a deterrent.
     
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  14. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Shouldn’t you mark the place of the ball BEFORE going to the center circle.
     
  15. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know I get shouted down for this every time I bring it up, but I'm going to say it again: In situations like this, the clock should stop. Allowing the clock to continue to run during situations where something soccer-related isn't happening serves no purpose other than to distort what period of the match you're actually in.
     
  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would have evaporated.
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Much like CONCACAF's backbone on this issue...
     
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  18. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They are being penalized. They have to play their first 2 WQCs behind closed doors. And that penalty was from before the Champions League final with all the chants and thrown objects from the stands.
     
  19. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    That doesn’t hurt them. We’ve been playing behind closed doors for the last two years.
    Deduct points, ban from tournaments, etc.
     
  20. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    a hockey game broke out
     
  21. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    So who had 90+15 for the time this match ended?
     
  22. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've said this several times tonight, but...

    F***in' CONCACAF, man.
     
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  23. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I realize it should be all the same amount of time, but it sure doesn't sit right to see Mexico score in the 9th minute of 7 minutes of stoppage time after the game was halted for 5+ minutes because of Mexican fans.

    And then no reds for that fight? CONCACAF gonna CONCACAF.
     
  24. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019
    Welp. Looks like their chant paid off. Sadly.
     
  25. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well we couldn't possibly let anyone get suspended for a final. That just wouldn't be fair.
     
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