The Red Baron: Josh Sargent at Norwich City

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Oct 11, 2016.

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  1. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Just judging from the highlights that was perfectly ok outing as a winger in a 3, but the idea that that player is/was going to become one of the "best strikers in the Bundesliga" remains as silly today as it was when his coach made it...

    Sarge is not a bad player, but he has yet to show he's particularly special in a top-league setting. Hope he has a break-out year and proves me wrong.
     
  2. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Only 21. He could still be a top striker. It takes time for most, though.
     
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  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    You'd think 10 million euros would be cheap enough for a Premier League club to take a risk on him.
     
  4. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    For what? So he can bring his his "missed a cow's arse from 10 yards with a banjo" act to England?

    Nobody's going to pay 10 million euros for that. If he produces, they'll pay 20 million. Until then, nada
     
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  5. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Very dramatic reactions here. That was a bad whiff but it wasn’t even in front of goal. Way to the side and very little chance of scoring. Freak out when he misses another sitter or one on one with the goalie.
     
  6. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    The way it's looking, it might make a lot of sense for him to play out this season and then sign with his hometown 2023 MLS expansion team. He'd want somewhere to play on loan leading up to the world cup, but surely that can be arranged.
     
  7. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
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    Or he could be on a downward spiral and out of soccer in 3 years. Josh needs to be better. I'm all in on Bremen being terrible but Josh himself isn't doing squat. That has to change for him to go to a better team.
     
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  8. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ireland Republic
    Take it easy. He plays well in the middle third and has a ferocious work ethic, but he just doesn't score and it's not clear what he kind of player he actually is: a #9, a #10, a #8, an old-style inside-right?

    There'll be teams willing to give his current iteration a contract for as long as he wants to play. They just won't be (regular) BL1 sides.
     
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  9. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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    United States
    Yes, but it was odd to whiff. Wasn’t a difficult volley.
     
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  10. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Wasn’t difficult to make contact. It would have been an incredible angle to score from on a volley.
     
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  11. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I would say in a vacuum, yes, but there is just not a lot of indication that Sarge is improving his scoring sense. That wiff was nothing. That happens to lots of players trying to crank a ball hard from a tough spot. To me it's more that he seems more at home/comfortable playing wide - and in the few sequences he does cut inside he just does not seem able to find a shooting lane.

    Not sure what the answer is. He might be a good RWF in the right 4-3-3, especially if it's a team that let's the front 3 swap and play thin, but he seems to moving away from a CF striker-type and inching into a tweener role. Hope it's short term and he starts getting into goal again.
     
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  12. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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    Yes, but you just hammer it on target and see what happens with rebound, etc.
     
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  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's like Drunken Fist: if you make it random, you become unpredictable.
     
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  14. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    It’s BS where every player is defined entirely by what he did a moment ago.
     
  15. gruenweiss87

    gruenweiss87 Member

    Werder Bremen
    Germany
    Sep 9, 2018
    I was in the stadium for the first time in almost 2 years. What a great experience but what a difficult game against a surprisingly well organized Hannover.
    I’ve never seen a game where the psychological baggage was this obvious. A good scene leads to another good scene and a bad scene leads to another bad scene. Remember that this is almost the same team that got relegated due to a 10 game losing streak after everybody thought they were safe after the Bielefeld win. It will take a couple of weeks for this to get better and once more fans are allowed they can carry the team to wins which are so important psychologically. Bremen stopped the sale of season tickets at 30000 so even BL2 home games will be sold out.

    With that in mind, I actually liked the missed volley from Sargent. He could have played it safe but he took a risk and if it had worked out it would have been a confidence booster, not just for him but also others around him.
     
  16. Brandinho

    Brandinho Member

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    Feb 22, 2007
    New Jersey
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    Maybe Bremen plays him “out of position” because he doesn’t look dangerous in front of goal.
     
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  17. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Sargent better start scoring goals as if he isn't a striker he is poor people Aaronson, who is better at everything else, but obviously not a striker.
     
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  18. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
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    Germany
    He missed the volley with his inside foot-. It was not his laces.
     
  19. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    Probably have heard enough about it by now. Kid missed it, shit happens. Everyone makes a flanger from time to time, and he knew it the instant it happened. He doesn’t make a habit of things like that. It doesn’t make him the worst striker in the 2BL. He is not terribly good at the moment, but looked pretty good in possession and as part of the attacking moves. Lets see where he and Bremen go from here. I would think he is not a massive target for other teams looking for a scoring threat so he’ll be at Bremen until he either catches fire or they want to get rid.
     
  20. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Josh’s miss = Sandals and gourds
     
  21. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My money is on old-style right forward. How many teams use that type of player these days?
     
  22. DrunkOffPunch

    DrunkOffPunch Member

    United States
    Jul 14, 2020
    Right because WB clearly have other options that are dangerous in front of goal. WB’s problem has been a lack of creativity in the final third and an inability to connect the midfield to the attack. The simple fact is that moving Sargent wide and starting Fullkrug in the middle improves their attack. Not because of anything to do with Sargent but that Fullkrug in the squad makes them a better team and he can’t play out wide. Neither could Selke. WB don’t have wingers so if they were chasing points they’d throw a bunch of strikers on the field.
     
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  23. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Given his skill set, if he doesn’t score goals he could be valuable in the attacking midfield. I saw him a lot last year. He has a good motor and presses well, sees the game at speed, isn’t afraid to stick in, etc.
     
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  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    He can reinvent himself as the Murican Mount!

    (ducks and crawls toward exit...)
     
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  25. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
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    yeah. agreed. 6/8
     
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