Pre-match: CONCACAF Gold Cup: Group Stage: USA vs Canada

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jul 16, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    It is a glorified friendly tournament because we didn't bring our best players and nobody is at risk of losing a night of sleep or a job if we crash out in the quarterfinals. Also, there are teams not in our confederation and teams not even members of FIFA playing in it. That too.
     
  2. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does this mean you are not getting amped up for Qatar vs. Grenada tonight? :)
     
    jnielsen repped this.
  3. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    #103 IndividualEleven, Jul 17, 2021
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2021
    I'd be surprised if he plays with a pending deal on the table.
     
  4. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If busio report is true, yeah, bubble wrap him, he’s not gonna play against canada.

    I’m hoping dike becomes quite the bid battle so we have him much of the cup if not all
     
  5. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Add Cannon to the guys with noted recent interest.

     
    Pl@ymaker, OWN(yewu)ED and Winoman repped this.
  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Copa America usually has guest teams, how do you think USA & Mexico play in it? (back when we had the guts to go).

    Not saying the B Gold Cup is not B list, it kinda is. But Mexico & Canada brought their A teams. As did virtually everyone else.
     
    50/50 Ball and YNWA Rob repped this.
  7. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
    No he wasn’t. Dike hoppe sands Roldan were all better.
     
    Winoman repped this.
  8. EXALIFTIN

    EXALIFTIN Member+

    Nov 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  9. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ives is hinting at a return to a 4-3-3, if that is true then I wouldn't hate Moore on the wing
     
    dams, Eleven Bravo and EXALIFTIN repped this.
  10. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    I wonder if they would keep Moore on the bench in case Cannon's issues flare up
     
  11. Calling BS

    Calling BS Member+

    Orlando City
    United States
    Jan 25, 2020
    I would expect players coming back from injuries to be subbed in and not started, especially in a meaningless match.
     
  12. Three and Three

    Three and Three Member+

    Sep 13, 2015
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Fair enough. But US-Canada is now never meaningless.
     
    ifsteve repped this.
  13. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for posting. Did they say anything about Arriola?
     
  14. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. EXALIFTIN

    EXALIFTIN Member+

    Nov 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No mention of Arriola, going to assume that he’s still carrying a knock
     
  16. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still would rest Cannon.... let him come in as 70 min sub, and move Moore at RW for the rest of the game.
     
    OWN(yewu)ED repped this.
  17. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m guessing Busio is still available... Cannon is clear... Arriola is not....

    —————-Dike——————
    Hoppe————————Roldan
    —————Lletget——————
    ———Busio——Acosta———
    Bello—————————Moore
    ———Sands——Zim————-
    —————-Turner——————

    Subs:
    Vines (Bello) 46
    Cannon (Roldan) 60 - move Moore to RW
    Gioacchini (Moore) 75
    Zardes (Dike) 75
    Williamson (Busio) 80
     
    UncagedGorilla, Namdynamo and Bajoro repped this.
  18. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He says he's ready to go. He's the first choice right back in this group, hasn't played and doesn't have another game for a week. There's no reason to rest him.
     
    ifsteve and Eleven Bravo repped this.
  19. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    She did put about 30 shots on target.
     
  20. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Seems 45 for Cannon then 45 for Moore would be the way to go. Hopefully, 433 isn't used.
     
  21. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not quite the 30 passes of the Mix goal v Germany but not bad "possession" soccer!
     
  22. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This match is about as meaningless as a match in a group can be when the actual winner of the group is still undecided. I believe both teams should play, as much as possible, the players that will not be missed in the remaining rounds.

    Playing to avoid any team or playing to try to meet some team, that is trying to win, lose or draw just to try to control the next round is foolish. It does not when matter we play whomever, if they are any good we will have to beat them anyway to win the tournament and visa versa.

    I am not saying we should "rest" anyone but, given CONCACAF players and refs the chances of injury through the game getting out of control is pretty high and not worth the risk.

    The players will all want to play and injury be damned but the coaches should assert themselves and not put any player of value into a dangerous position unless it can't be avoided.

    I have also noticed that many Canadian players get carried away and foul hard if things do not go their way. Another reason that this game carries inordinate risks.

    Of course the way this tournament is set up few, if any, of the players that really matter to the US's future are even here. So, maybe nearly everyone is really little more than canon fodder so playing the best or playing the worst really is just throwing a few "red shirts" out to get phasered or disrupted.
     
  23. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he’s fit, he’s fit. But I wouldn’t bench Shaq.

    —————-Dike—————-
    Hoppe————————-Moore
    —————Lletget—————
    ——-Busio———-Acosta——-
    Vines/Bello——————-Cannon
    ———Sands——Zim———-/
    —————Turner—————-
     
  24. LivingStone

    LivingStone Member

    Barca
    United States
    May 21, 2019
    I just see Zardes starting and even Guzon.
    Cannon, probably not yet.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since I got 10/11 (Acosta --> Roldan the only miss) last game, I'll take a shot at this one as well....

    Assuming it's a 3-4-2-1 again:

    --------------------Dike---------------------
    ---------Hoppe----------Lletget-----------
    -Vines------------------------------Moore-
    ---------Williamson----Acosta------------
    ----Robinson--Sands--Zimmerman----
    ------------------Turner---------------------

    Bello wasn't great last game but I would still start him again over Vines... I just don't expect Gregg to. That's the only spot where what I want differs from what I expect.
    Moore over Cannon because the former is likely to fare better against Tajon Buchanan.
    Lletget over Roldan because the latter is just too limited physically against non-minnows.
    Any 2/3 of Williamson/Acosta/Busio would be fine but leaving off Busio with all these rumors of an imminent Venezia move... plus he's the most likely to be physically overmatched.

    Of course I still have this fear that Berhalter has not changed one bit, and we'll see Yueill/Lewis/Zardes, and even Roldan, in addition to Vines (how could it get any worse, Pines for Zimmerman? Guzan for Turner?) but hopefully that's just me being silly... Gregg didn't disappoint me last game and surely he won't again!

     

Share This Page