Euro 2020 Official Thread

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by calabrese8, May 28, 2021.

  1. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I still think this England team will be a tough nut to crack. I don’t think the current 4-3-3 is necessarily the key to beating them. Insigne and Chiesa will have trouble vs Walker/ Shaw. If Immobile couldn’t get anything from Spain, I find it difficult to see him doing much against Maguire/ Stones. The true battle will be in the midfield. Their mid is robust and very good at closing the spaces. No doubt Southgate will studying the Austria game.

    Defensively, I’m confident in Bonucci/ Chiellini’s ability to handle Kane. The issue is Sterling who is a menace not only for his speed but now we see he’s completely able to invent a penalty and the refs are willing to give it.

    On their end, Southgate has showed that he’s willing to adapt to his opponent from the first minute. I’m not saying we can’t beat them, but Mancini needs to be capable of cooking a surprise. He cannot let Southgate get the drop on him
     
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  2. Non Venite in Puglia

    Juventus
    Italy
    Feb 26, 2021
    I definitely agree with those that think the battle will be won in midfield. Like most matches between teams at this level, those that control the middle of the park will often dictate the tempo of the game, create more clear cut chances, and score more goals. In truth, I think Italy matches up well against this English side. The English attackers will be a handful on the counter, but I fully expect Italy to boss the midfield and maintain a majority of possession. What they do with that possession remains to be seen. Turnovers with men committed forward will spell danger.

    In my opinion, Pickford appears to be the weakest link for England. For all of the talk about him being better than Pope with his feet, he has looked suspect in possession and a complete liability playing balls out from the back. A bit of pressure from the attackers and Italy could find themselves with a few opportunities that are created from balls recuperated high up the pitch. Aside from that though, Pickford hasn’t looked all that comfortable. I think the one goal conceded all tournament is flattering. I’m not sure if he feels the need to constantly go for the spectacular save because he knows the cameras are on him or if he just isn’t that secure in his footwork. Either way, I think Italy should test him every chance they get.
     
  3. GIGI RIVA

    GIGI RIVA Member

    Fiorentina
    Canada
    Aug 24, 2009
    Guelph Ontario
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Italy v England final two of the biigest Soccer countries in Europe , two countries with a lot to prove . between the two countries I think I think Italy needs this more lets face it I think the Calciopoli scandal is still haunting them and at the same time Italian Soccer has been in the doldrums especially at the club level when competing in Europe , and wouldnt it be great if they knock off the nation that has been really trash talking them for years , especially at there home field. I know one thing Most of Europe will be supporting Italy before the Brexit boys. This is a great oppurtunity for redemption I think Forza Italia
     
  4. toonarmy44

    toonarmy44 Member

    Aug 28, 2002
    Tyne and Wear
    As an England fan interesting to read Italian perspective on this game.

    I have been very impressed with Italy and my fear is your midfield 3 of barella, jorginho and varatti could outpass us in the middle of the pitch.

    I know England fans always get painted as being arrogant but all my friend group have been very pessimistic this tournament about our chances mainly as we thought Southgate was too negative. However we have had to concede he has got it right so far and I see this being a very tight game.

    My boss at work is Scottish of Italian descent so will dread going into work on Monday if we lose!

    I do think where we have the advantage is pace, if we can isolate your centre backs it could be the key
     
  5. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
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    SSC Napoli
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    Italy
    I had a chat with a friend of mine from Manchester yesterday who is on the moon. He told me “this is my first final!” And it made me realize that this is my 5th. So far I’m 1/4 since 1994.

    What I’m getting at is that old expression: “Sometimes you need to eat shit to appreciate the taste of chocolate” ;)
     
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  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Maybe I'm over thinking it but I don't trust England.

    The whole thing with them making the final playing 6 out of 7 games at home certainly gave them an advantage and seems kind of setup and fixed.

    The EPL, sponsorships, English language and TV and all the money dictated and programmed England in the final and I don't know if it’s true or not but it sure seems setup to me.
     
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  7. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Who knows. The penalty yesterday was so bizarre. Two balls on the field while it happens and the ref refuses to even look at the VAR for an obvious dive. Everything has lined up for the English even off the field. Favourable bracket, hosting format, banning of travelling fans etc. It will be that much sweeter if we win
     
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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You definitely win with pk’s!

    I can't recall but has Italy had a pk in the field of play in this tournament?
     
  9. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The reason why England have got majority of the games at Wembley is because Ireland were meant to host 3 of these matches which they eventually couldn't because of covid outbreak hence England got the games.
     
  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #410 falvo, Jul 8, 2021
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    I'm pretty sure they will have had won playing in either Ireland or Scotland as well.

    Regardless of the reasons, they still had the advantage playing at home.
     
  11. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    My wife is English. She hates football, but even she wants England to win. Luckily I have raised my three boys well and they are diehard Azzurri fans.

    This is my sixth final. I was 8 when Italy won in 1982 and I certainly didn't appreciate that until later years. As you get older, you realize these opportunities are quite rare. For the English, this is once-in-a-lifetime stuff. Wembley will be rocking, cheering, whistling, and jeering come Sunday. I have a feeling a few Italians in London will manage to sneak their way in though.

    FORZA AZZURRI!!
     
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  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #412 falvo, Jul 8, 2021
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    Yeah from what I heard on Rai, they didn't let anyone living outside England into the previous games....

    I'm sure that will be an even bigger advantage.

    Heck even after 31 years, the Italia 90 Argentina -Italy semifinal in Napoli there are still those who view the game as a setup for Maradona's Albiceleste.
     
  13. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
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    Italy
  14. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Games could have easily been spread out to other countries, the fact that they all went to Wembley is shady.
     
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  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    #415 falvo, Jul 8, 2021
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    It has to do with the English langauge , TV, Sponsors , Money and of course wanting the EPL to dominate the world!

    “The Empire on which the sun never sets”....


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  16. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
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    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This will be the fifth time in recent memory that Italy will go into the "mouth of the lion". Big tournament matches vs. the hosts in very hostile stadiums



    Not just the battles of Dortmund or Amsterdam, but also vs. France in 1998 in Paris and who can forget 2002 vs. South Korea.
     
  17. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I was there at 2006 semi final at westfalenstadion against you boys when Grosso broke our hearts, still hurts, we were so near to penalties.
     
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  18. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Also travelling has effected other teams, not easy to move around without having to have a settled base in one place.
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Playing in Ireland though with or without Covid, England will still have had an advantage as fans will have flocked across the water. I don't see how they wouldn't be a step ahead.
     
  20. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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  21. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
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  22. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I really hope Mancini sticks to his guns and approaches the Final the same way we have approached the vast majority of games during his tenure, playing open, attacking football and without fear. I have never enjoyed watching the National Team as much as this past tournament with the mindset that we are going to impose our style of play on the adversary, rather than the typical pragmatic, cautious approach we have seen all our lives from Italy. I was concerned with the way we played Spain and I hope that game was just a blip on the radar.
     
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  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He never palyed in the WC after that as Cesare Maldini left him off in favor of Baggio........
     
  24. tmontana52

    tmontana52 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Philly- the 215
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Ciao a tutti!

    does anyone live in Chicago and know of a good bar to watch the final? I’m new in town and would love to watch the final with other azzurri fans.

    Cheers!
     
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  25. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    We need a Bobo Vieri style player in our squad :( So many striker options in the 90's and mid 00's and now we have nothing.
     
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