Tuesday 22 June 2021

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Stuart95, Jun 21, 2021.

  1. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS Power Rankings: Seattle reclaim No. 1 spot, New England No. 2, Colorado and Orlando climbing
    https://www.espn.com/soccer/major-l...new-england-no-2colorado-and-orlando-climbing

    Team of the Week presented by Audi: New England Revolution steal the show in Week 8
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/team...new-england-revolution-steal-the-show-in-week

    Major League Soccer to launch development league in 2022
    https://www.espn.com/soccer/major-l...e-soccer-to-launch-development-league-in-2022

    Miami's Gregore, Austin FC's Cecilio Dominguez issued fines by MLS Disciplinary Committee
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/miam...-dominguez-issued-fines-by-mls-disciplinary-c

    MLS celebrates Juneteenth: See the best supporter tifos and tributes this weekend
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-...est-supporter-tifos-and-tributes-this-weekend

    Nomadic CF Montréal on the move again next month
    https://montrealgazette.com/sports/...adic-cf-montreal-on-the-move-again-next-month

    It is time to be (slightly) concerned about Atlanta United’s season
    https://mlsmultiplex.com/2021/06/21/atlanta-united-concern-season-2021/

    Ronald Hernández is first MLS player to score in Copa América
    https://en.as.com/en/2021/06/21/football/1624244469_426323.html

    Jamaican Alvas Powell Signs with Philadelphia Union
    https://jamaicans.com/jamaican-alvas-powell-signs-with-philadelphia-union/

    Real Salt Lake signs 18-year-old Academy product Zack Farnsworth
    https://www.soccerwire.com/news/real-salt-lake-signs-18-year-old-academy-product-zack-farnsworth/

    Former Atlanta United defender Jack Gurr signs with Stephen Glass' Aberdeen
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/form...r-jack-gurr-signs-with-stephen-glass-aberdeen
     
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  2. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today's name the badge:
    SC.png
     
  3. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  4. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Twisted Metal FC?
     
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  5. Brian in Boston

    Brian in Boston Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    MA & CA, USA
    Oh, how I love the badges of Brazilian football. This one belongs to Recife's Santa Cruz Futebol Clube.
     
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  6. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I want to change my vote to Atletico Labirinto.
     
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  7. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very direct article from Cincinnati Soccer Talk that points the finger exactly where it belongs:

    ...FCC arrogantly thought they could do something no one has. Take a USL coach, a USL squad and an NASL general manager into a league and compete. They failed. The mistake was revealed and it was obvious. MLS has a clear style, and while it varies from club to club it is clear. You need people that understand the league in the front office....

    ...Instead of identifying the problem of lack of MLS experience, FC Cincinnati tried to re-invent the wheel again. They hired a Dutch GM and now two Dutch coaches to bring in their own players and their own system. They could do what Atlanta United failed to do, make the Dutch way work in America. It is time to admit that is failing....

    ...Now FC Cincinnati is headed toward a third straight year in last place. That is massively hard to do in MLS. It is an impressive and unprecedented kind of bad. It all stems from FCC’s arrogance in trying to re-invent the wheel. The club cannot forge its own way. It is time to accept it needs MLS experience in the front office....


    FC Cincinnati: Stop trying to reinvent the wheel - Cincinnati Soccer Talk

    They have really made a mess of things in Cincy and the fans' patience is not limitless. All they ever had to do was look around the league and see what has worked and what has failed. Instead, they marched straight down well-worn failure paths that even casual fans know perfectly well just won't work.

    The real pity is that the owners have proven that they're more than willing to shell out stupid money for players. Nothing cheap about these guys. What they need to do - and I'm dead serious - is show up at the team offices in the morning and start passing out pink slips. Thanks for your efforts, you've got ten minutes to clean out your desk.

    Then hire almost anyone with MLS experience and go from there.
     
  8. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    As a TFC supporter, I have no sympathy for what FCC supporters are going through.

    When they have 8 years of mediocrity before getting to playoffs, then maybe I'll sympathize. lol
     
  9. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least Cincy had the initial excuse of ignorance to fall back on. That, and they'd had some success in USL against MLS teams in the Open Cup (as we know well in Columbus).

    Beckham in Miami, on the other hand...

    Back in the day, these kinds of failures let to existential angst among MLS fans, as we worried about our little league, and were concerned that abject failure in a market might taint the overall product. Now I can just sit back and wallow in watching the failure of others, just as the soccer gods intended.
     
  10. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winner, winner ... Santa Cruz Futebol Clube from Brazil's Serie C
     
  11. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #12 Bill Archer, Jun 22, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2021
    And the thing is that while they keep reaching out to the Netherlands for coaches who don't have a clue, there are several guys with tons of MLS experience that they could take a shot with. Kerry Zavagnin, Pat Noonan, Ante Razov, Ezra Hendrickson, just off the top of my head. Longtime assistants with successful MLS teams.

    But no, they hire some Voom deVortsgelder who thinks he can recreate Clockwork Orange with US players.

    Meanwhile, other teams are snatching up the young coaching talent. Josh Wolff, Tab Ramos, Robin Fraser. They were all available and the early results are rather promising.

    Unlike good old Voom in Cincy.
     
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  13. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm. Certainly not in that club. And not in any way local.

     
  15. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Three of the most successful coach's in MLS right now were interim coaches.
    Vanney, Schmetzer and Curtin who also happen to be American. The problem is being sexy right now is more important than promoting from within.
     
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  16. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    His family is in the energy business so they have a lot of connections in Houston. I don't know if Ted Segal has personal connections here but he certainly knows people who do.

    Apparently the Dynamo have also just hired Jamey Rootes to join the front office. Rootes was the President and GM of the Columbus Crew back when MLS started. He has been the President of the Houston Texans for the last 20 years so he certainly has local connections. Rootes resigned from the Texans over a disagreement with the owner in the spring of this year.
     
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  18. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great info. Thanks. Rootes was instrumental in getting Crew Stadium built. Of course the league's changed a lot since 1999, but still, it's good to hear someone with MLS in his DNA is connected to the Dynamo.
     
  19. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They don't really even have that excuse - the example (including the compressed start up window, even) of 2017 Minnesota United was right there for them to look at, if they were willing.

    They chose to ignore it.
     
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  20. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    They have made some real bonehead roster decisions. All the talk this year was about how they upgraded the offense but they did absolutely no upgrades to the backline. They went out and got Mattarita but he wasn't going to be an upgrade defensively (he is better to me as an attacking fullback). They downgraded at right back and basically held pat at CB. Then they relied on a d-mid that didn't show much last year to be the guy that would clean everything up. Of course Stam then goes and puts Kubo in the midfield and they wonder why suddenly teams are running down their throat. Oh, and to fix that issue they sign a 300 year old American CB and "upgrade" their GK position with a guy that got beat out by a 25 year old Mexican-American at LAFC.
     
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  21. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  22. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  23. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vermeer is such a bust of a mls keeper. He got like $900k from LAFC too. Who knows what Cindy is paying.

    it’s not just the defense with him. He makes terrible decisions and the ball goes right through him often.
     
  24. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. Pack87Man

    Pack87Man BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 1, 2001
    Quad Cities
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, for all of the 60-90 days jokes, Red Bull Arena did eventually get built, and Nick Sak even got another stadium across the line in Philly. I will try to maintain optimism.
     

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