Colombia vs Peru Copa America 2021 (June 20th)

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by Froboy69, Jun 12, 2021.

  1. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ********ING CHRIST BOJORA....
     
  2. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Borja is eating all them goals :cry:
     
  3. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cuadrado is spent. He can't go on...
     
  4. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We lost all the plot... Puro pelotazo.... We don't really know how to play when down
     
  5. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Have we ever played this bad?

    this is Worst than Bolillo!!

    or Dare I say Lara?
     
  6. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We did not deserve to win. This was completely embarrassing and pathetic...

    And here I legitmently believed that we could improve as a team without the likes of James but it just goes to show that we're not meant to succeed and grow.

    We are not only ********ed possibly from not making it to the next round but this generation of ours will not achieve anything. A failed golden generation once again.

    I seriously doubt that we'll qualify for a world cup after 2022 any time soon....
     
  7. Jace

    Jace Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    2nd game in a row where Cardona comes out and Colombia loses all semblance of build up play.
     
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  8. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    completely embarrassing
     
  9. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Thank god like 50 teams qualify to the next WC haha

    Are we that dirty of a team or do people dive anytime we go next to them since we have a bad rep after the Zuniga flying knee to Neymar.
     
  10. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  11. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Una mierda de partido. Primero, traición al estilo. Segundo, cambios irracionales. Tercero, delanteros con la pólvora mojada. El segundo tiempo, una castaña.
     
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  12. krass

    krass Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Si no clasificamos a segunda ronda, que se vaya Rueda.
     
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  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He made awful call ups

    Perlaza yet to play. Has 2-3 cbs that have t played

    took 4 DMs. 1 attacking mf

    6 strikers ….

    I mean if this was a bunch of guys he was trying fine but this is the best 28 in his mind minus James. James is good but come on we can’t possible be this shit without him
     
  14. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don't care how good your stars are, you can't afford to field an XI at this level of competition with guys like Perez and Tesillo who are so limited. You just give away too much of the field.

    Again - I don't know how Chara was even called up - much less seeing the field as a sub. A few cycles ago we would have called this la rosca. The thing is that this time it isnt for a financial kick back or something - it's just looks like Rueda calling up old friends to hang out when we should be seriously evaluating talent to be competitive in Sept. I get that he wanted to create a harmonious locker room but we are tying our hands behind our backs.

    Instead, you are grinding down Duvan, Muriel and C4 who look exhausted and Cardona has lost like ten pounds this week playing full games when he hasn't played consistently in months.

    So angry.
     
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  15. Jace

    Jace Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    wtf were those Chara minutes? Terrible.

    Perez was ok, but why play him over some of the younger players?

    Tesillo is terrible.

    Duvan was invisible. Playing him next to Borja was not the right lineup call.

    Morelos looked pretty bad in those limited minutes. But cant really blame him with the missed time due to covid.

    Cardona is so hot and cold. But at least he creates chances. And once he sits, we have no one to build play up. Its all just looking for Cuadrado and hoping he can come up with something.

    Barrios is awesome. Cuellar should have started next to him.

    Cuadrado has needed a game off for a while now. Now he has to play against Brazil because of needing a result and with him being a yellow card away from missing the quarterfinal game.
     
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  16. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Es que hay algo muy gracioso, estamos frente al que a todas luces es el mejor futbolista que ha tenido Colombia en su historia, así de simple, solo que no lo hemos percibido aún...hasta que no está. Jamás se me va a olvidar ese amistoso vs Mexico, James con la numero 5 y dio clases literalmente de como se domina el mediocampo. Ahora, Cuadrado es bueno? buenísimo, pero nunca ha sido quién cargue con la responsabilidad absoluta de la capacidad ofensiva del equipo, aporta, pero no tiene la visión de juego, ni el cambio de frente, ni la media distancia, ni el pase quirúrgico. Esto que estoy escribiendo lo hago a plena conciencia de saber que será tomado como algo exagerado, pero si me voy a los números, los juegos y el presente, algo de razón puede que tenga.

    Feliz noche a todos
     
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  17. Jace

    Jace Member

    Oct 19, 2014


    This is just asking for people to question why not bring James then...
     
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  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    To me the 90s team is jealous. Heard they were pissed someone asked James who the best Colombian player was. He said himself. I mean he is not wrong. Only other player who could be mentioned is Falcao or Ivan Cordoba.

    He left out

    Alzate who can actually pass and create
    Aguedelo who was very interesting in Italy. He had 28 FKING SPOTS
    Vergara

    I am sure even more players in the league

    WTF did he call Perez, Peralaza, Chara, Otero, Oscar Murillo (he has way younger better options this dude time is over), Camilo Vargas, or Morelos ( how Many shots is he going to be given?)
     
  19. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Es que o la convocatoria se hizo sin ninguna seriedad (como puedes llamar a chicos en plena recuperacion de Covid con pocos partidos y decir que solo estas convocando los que estan al 500%) o se llaman los Perez (ambos), Chara, etc. porque contribuyen al ambiente que quieres crear y lo de mas es un invento. Es decir, voy a crear el camerino que quiero y apostar que los delanteros se inventan algo...

    Si querias enviarle un mensaje serio a James, convocas a chicos que la estan rompiendo como J Carbonero o le das oportunidad a Campaz. Si te importa el 500% convocas a Valoyes (u otro) para tener un extremo derecho para darle descanzo a C4 de vez en cuando. Si querias verdaderamente probar jugadores llamas a Sinisterra para ver como anda, no a Chara... Tenemos uno de los equipos mas viejos del torneo con un proposito anunciado de probar alineaciones?
     
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  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Alzate and Agudelo are two other good examples of guys who had solid seasons and play roles this NT could use right now in spots that are being occupied by older veterans who aren't currently in peak form.

    Tesillo is a huge tactical error. Teams have figured out that he offers nothing beyond the middle of the field and they are giving him the whole flank daring us to change the field. The second we pass out to him they feast and the play breaks down.

    I will say this on Cuellar - he isn't exciting, but he passes the ball forward. I appreciated that when he came on.
     
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  21. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Not having James is looking less and less like a smart move.

    There was a lot of optimism with how we played in the qualifiers but not having him lead up the midfield is starting to show a lot of issues...

    Say what you want about him but the coach should at least kept him as an option because our attack has been very lack luster...

    Even I am missing James by this point.
     
  22. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    there's not much more to be said, the full backs were totally exposed here and given they were at one point our only attacking outlet we were completely doomed having average players like Tesillo and Medina. Muriel and Cuellar made a massive difference when they came on

    something about Copa America and Colombian being consistenly terrible each and every tournament no matter what.
     
  23. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    King Barrios doing his thing

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  24. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Not having James is fine if you are changing style or having a new stud #10 to use.

    not when you want to play like you still have Zuniga and Armero but have Tesillo and Medina(honestly thought he was our best player and made some great runs, crosses and through balls…. Not his fault Borja kept shutting his pants and sending it to the moon)

    All 5 of Ruedas games it’s give it to Cuadrado or Medina and cross for a header but we lose most our Ariel battles…. So maybe try something to else

    the Medina through ball to Borja destroyed their defense because no one expected it.

    team is too predictable and is afraid to shoot. The worst thing is the 50 passes in a 2 yard radius. It’s not ********ing practice!!
     
  25. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Chara getting minutes is embarrassing. Duvan at wing? We should have had Aguedelo and Alzate getting minutes over Perez who's not gonna make any minutes. You start Cuesta in the important game but don't start him in the COPA? We have no midfield, I understand and agree with him dropping James, problem is its just highlighting how badly we need him to link the play and create chances. With Cuadrado as our main creator we aren't going anywhere, the offense stops and we wait for him to dribble or he fires in crosses with low probability of creating chances. We should have been using the tournament to build instead we got a bunch of old washed up players getting handed out minutes without seeing the young up and comers while still being shitty.
     

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