Covid-19: Vax Americana

I'm going on one next week. Was at the Lightening game the other day, and with kids at Disney World a few weeks ago. Life is good.

 

How are their numbers death/cases wise?

 

Businesses are already suffering because people don't want to come back to work.

 

Flights are already pretty much full for the most part.

Without vaccinations outbreaks on airlines and flights was already low, how do you expect it to increase with vaccinations?

 

That's a really bad idea.

 

Thank god, @The Verv providing sanity after all this birthrate nonsense.

 

I'm somewhat surprised how many don't really actually know that the immune system is quite remarkable already, or does everyone in here believe that getting Covid is an automatic hospitalization and/or death sentence? On two separate occasions I've tested positive for antibodies. It's interesting because I'm trying to remember when I was actually sick with anything. Two occasions come to mind, 5 days with a sore throat in December 2019 and a dry cough that was persistent for 2 week in March 2020.

So how does "trusting the science" work in this regard? Wouldn't a healthy dose of skepticism be warranted, a factor the literally defines good science?

 

Not until the Euros are over.

 

Here in Florida no one is watching the Euro's, except for a few weirdo's like me.

 

I haven't seen my parents in the UK for about 18 months. I'll be on a flight as soon as the UK drops the 10 day isolation requirement.

 

You don't like them enough to do 10 days of isolation now? What did they ever do to you?

 

Tbh most of the time I'm there I lie on the sofa and watch TV channelling my inner 14 year-old.

But no, my mother has to make 40 mile round trips to hospital in a regular basis and my Dad and sister are worn out so I want to be able to take some of the pressure off them.

 

Yes, the immune system is remarkable. Shame it couldn't prevent the millions of covid hospitalizations in the US over the past year.

 

That's great.

 

Except it did, for those who didn't get hospitalized, like me. There are a lot more of us around than you want to give credit for. It just takes a paradigm shift, only a small one to understand that many were hospitalized and not everyone who got the virus (me) got extremely sick. Not acknowledging that doesn't make it untrue.

The natural herd immunity that isn't being talking about are largely the reason why states like Texas and Florida are having full events without becoming super spreaders with only 30-40% of the population full vaxed.

 

There's a lot of you in the US! Even more than the 600,000 US citizens who are no longer around due to Covid. What were we ever worried about?

You have a point.

 

I think 80% have minimal to no symptoms, so yes.

Fear can be helpful and harmful. Depends, doesn't it?

I do but dismissing my point doesn't make it disappear. There are a lot of people with healthy immune systems that didn't get extremely sick. Loads in fact. It might not make you happy, but I'm one of them. We exist. Hurrah for a healthy immune system. The reality is that not everyone who gets it goes to hospital and dies. Is that something to be disappointed about?

 

If it is unsafe and, particularly, if it is unsafe and the wages are shitty, I don't blame them.

 

Mostly it's because they're getting paid to stay home and not work though. It would be unwise for businesses to take risks that reduce employment.

 

Especially so now that we're finding out that previously infected people have more robust and resistant anti bodies to variants. I consider myself fortunate that I had a minimal response to the virus and am now protected.

 

Ummmm. Didn't I acknowledge your point.

I'm very happy a lot of people haven't died. I'm not happy for the 600,000 dead and those who care for them in the US alone, or the millions worldwide, whom you don't seem to give a shit about.

They died because they were weak or lived unhealthy lifestyles? They had it coming?

Why don't you care that a disease that's easily preventable has killed as many people as cancer and heart disease this last year? Do you sit there and shit on everyone who has died of those diseases just because you don't have a problem with them currently?

From the CDC 2019

 

If you say so.

I never said that. That's a huge straw man you created there.

 

I’m confused as to exactly why you seem to think that the fact that the majority of the people who contact Covid have not required hospitalization is somehow news to the people on this forum. The point you’re trying to make isn’t news to anyone.

Now….what you think that means…well…I’ve got 600,000 reasons why that doesn’t mean what you think it means.

 

It does seem to be to this person

"Shame it couldn't prevent the millions of covid hospitalizations in the US over the past year."

because it did, for millions that weren't hospitalized. None of that is a negative to those that were, as one tried to imply.

 

I did. There's actual proof that I did. I wrote it. Then I quoted it. Would you like me to again?

I would offer that you should talk to someone who has had a loved one die due to Covid like you have here. I'm sure it will go over well. I'm sure they won't be offended at all.

Here's another example to make it a little clearer to you:

I worked hard all my life. I studied really hard in school. I got great grades, a full ride to several universities I applied to, got post graduate degrees. I owned my own house at 25. I have a great career, wife, and kids.

I don't know why all these minorities (other than those plucky Asians) complain so much. They just don't know how to work hard like I did.

Of course, I'm not racist.