Copa America 2021 Discussion [Pregame/Match Thread]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by locoxriver, Jun 10, 2021.

  1. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    If it was Vargas, he would have put in that head.

    Just hoping he is 100%
     
  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Which is most worrying part. They just looks defeated, especially the way Nico & Lautaro just blew those close chances away. Both even had a chance where they could easily scores by just shoot it, but they passed it back to Messi who's basically futher away from the goal. Thats not sign of confidence.
     
  3. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    According to recent news , Romero already training with the team and could possibly starts. I dont think he should , really. I'd just replace the frontlines and add Palacios. Just dont sub out players who does well in first half. You got 2 struggling forwards & Lo Celso providing great passes, but he replaced Lo Celso quickly instead... What game did Scolani watch?

    With the group stage now having 2 extra games, we're not in "do or die" situation.
     
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  4. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lo Celso was playing good so it’s hard to understand why he was subbed out, but we don’t see him train on a day-to-day basis to know how fit he really is. Maybe he just can’t handle a full 90 minutes atm

    A week ago in WCQ he didn’t even play the first fixture vs Chile, and vs Colombia he only saw about 50 minutes before being replaced. Remember that at the beginning of the year he was sidelined for several months for Tottenham due to injury. I have a feeling that substitution yesterday was premeditated and was going to happen regardless of his performance on the pitch.

    I assume both him and Palacios will get more and more minutes as the tournament progresses. Scaloni just seems to be trying to get them fully fit first.
     
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  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    At least none of our defensive blunder look as bad as this one.

     
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  6. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Just noticed the NT will face Uruguay who haven't played since the WCQ. Then 3 days later, the NT will face Paraguay who would not have played for a week so both team will be fresh. Full team vs Uruguay and, although I don't take them lightly, I think we might have to do one or two rotations vs Paraguay.
     
  7. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The good thing is that they might not be on rhythm yet compare to us.

    Apart from 2018 chaos, Argentina usually put better performance in second match.
     
  8. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  9. Duchene2Mackinnon

    May 9, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nico Gonzalez heading to brighton. Good move for them if he stays healthy. We haven’t had good luck in the Uk.

    he played great last game shame that he wouldn’t start next game. Just lacked finishing but he has it in him.
     
  10. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    For me, I'm disappointed with the move as I think he could play in a Europa league level team. Still on the young side though.

    I would still keep him in the starting XI as I understand he just returned from injury. Hopefully his finishing returns. I'm more disappointed with Lautaro's finishing though.
     
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  11. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  12. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    I think people are overly critical of our midfield (yes, you know i am defending my guy). Paredes does his job as a #5 just fine, he is also the best long passer by far on the team but it is just not his role.

    I was watching this argentina vs brazil highlights from a friendly I think in 1999:



    Going up against one of the strongest brazil teams yes but man look at our lineup holy shit. Ayala, Samuel, Zanetti, Sorin...plus REDONDO and Veron in the middle.

    the abuse we got in midfield look how many chances brazil had I mean freakin ze roberto was running circles around our guys. I am sure if this forum was around back then we would ask for half the team to be replaced after that game
     
  13. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    We seem to have rather bad luck with young defenders. Gonzalo Rodriguez was becoming a monster at 21 with Villareal before being ruled out of the 2006 WC with a serious knee injury.

    Our coaches also seem slow to pick players at the height of their powers. Caballero was overlooked and then picked when on the wane. Ditto for Armani. Or players like Campagnaro.
     
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  14. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  15. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    thats disgusting and shameful meanwhile euro teams play on perfect pitch
     
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  16. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Wow - that is ridiculous. That is why playing in South America is so much more difficult- the likes of Wales, Russia, Sweden, and even Holland, Germany, and Spain would struggle on these pitches and in the altitude of Bolivia or the heat of Barranquilla. Plus the traveling and the travel arrangements.

    And the all-out war that every game is here.
     
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  17. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The worst part is that the NT have to play in that same field vs Paraguay as well. It's going to be hard for the NT to play their passing game in this field. The field is more suited for teams who are going to play long balls and crosses.
     
  18. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  19. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  20. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
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  21. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The mask cult will be devastated if everything's back to normal.
     
  22. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    According to the latest reports, Cuti Romero will start vs. Uruguay..... but for LMQ, not Otamendi :rolleyes:

    Expected line-up:

    Martínez;
    Montiel - Romero - Otamendi - Acuña;
    De Paul - Paredes - Lo Celso;
    Messi - Lautaro - Nico González/Di María

    Looks like you guys will be getting your wish with Acuña for Tagliafico
     
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  23. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I suspect this will be Nico’s last chance to show that he is a starter. Third game to do something other than kick it straight to the goalie.
     
  24. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Good. One of staff member probably speaks English and regular lurking at this board.
     
  25. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Huh?
     

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