UEFA Euro 2020: England Tournament Thread [R]

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, May 14, 2021.

  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I think it only meant that he’s involved in the squad. Meaning he’s available. Southgate never said he would actually play.
     
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  2. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    A lovely interview with what seems like a really nice young man.
     
  3. arkantiger

    arkantiger Member

    Chelsea
    Lebanon
    Jun 8, 2021



    An encouraging watch for those who are worried about the threat of Robertson. No reason Foden shouldn't be able to do the same again
     
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  4. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
  5. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Jocks have been giving it large 'England are average ' 'their players are overrated ' 'Wembley will be a home game for the scots' . Hope we absolutely hammer them. Can't stand the cnuts
     
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  6. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    I think it is almost the opposite - whilst we need to be 'up for it' we can't get dragged into a Derby game. We are miles better than them in every area and need to play our game.

    If you ask any Scot what they want to happen, they would want the game dragged into a feisty derby, that is their best hope of getting something out of this
     
  7. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Interesting changes at full back being reported - and think that gives us the right balance to move forward into the tournament with maguire coming back into team next week maybe.

    Mings and Trippier did very well, but should be no need for Trippier to be that side with Mings v Scotland......surprised KT didn't go across to RB but rotating full backs never seems to hurt much as we have so much quality there.

    Be good to get the win and rest some players v Czechia
     
  8. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    Hé won’t play anyway
     
  9. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008


    :ROFLMAO:
     
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  10. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    Merson, who’s surprisingly not a bad pundit, thinks Southgate won’t start Grealish against the scots as a great performance would put him under pressure to start him in the following games against the better teams. And that Grealish doesn’t fit his system. I could be ok with Grealish coming on late but then I’m not sure why he didn’t come on vs Croatia, he was the perfect player to manage the lead
     
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  11. OllyAlex

    OllyAlex Member

    Mar 2, 2021
    After the way Jack Grealish played against Belgium you’d think everyone would recognise that he positively thrives against top quality opposition and in the big games .
     
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  12. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Apparently after the Romania game, according to Athletic pod, Southgate was really frustrated with the pressing - and the 2 worst offenders in his eyes were Rashford and Grealish - so do think there is an element of not trusting him in the bigger games because poor pressing can cost us the game
     
  13. Toosaul

    Toosaul Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    I can't think of a better player to come on, run at players, get us up the pitch, win a load of FK's. I was amazed he didn't come on against Croatia. What Merson said makes sense, but it would be foolishness not to start him today. Gordon Strachan is desperate for him to be on the bench. Jose just compared him to Figo. He always makes a difference when he plays. Foden was dead quiet other then that early shot, his place must be under pressure.
     
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  14. OllyAlex

    OllyAlex Member

    Mar 2, 2021
    Why am I not surprised ..
     
  15. OllyAlex

    OllyAlex Member

    Mar 2, 2021
    The only snag like I said , is that refs have been so lenient they may just allow play to carry on after most of the fouls on him
     
  16. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I think that Grealish was slated to come on whilst it was 0-0. He was doing a serious warm up anyway. Think Southgate wanted Rashford for his pace on the break as Croatia would have to attack us. I'd have preferred Grealish I think.

    United fans will recognise that criticism of Rashford.
     
  17. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    He didn’t defend much vs Romania but at villa he works pretty hard
     
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  18. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I don’t understand this criticism of Grealish’s pressing. We don’t pick apart the weakness of other players like that.

    Sterling’s decision making can be shocking… Foden can go into his shell… Rashford isn’t clinical… Mings has poor technique… Kane drops deep too often. All seen as minor issues yet Grealish’s one minor weakness is held up as reason not to pick him.
     
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  19. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
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    Didn't someone post some data a couple of days ago demonstrating how awful Grealish is off the ball in pretty much every metric next to all of his competition?
     
  20. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    The fans may not as most don't really understand pressing patterns. None of us know the team instructions either. The coaching staff are there to pick apart performances in every detail.

    This is the stat report Jenks is talking

    https://fbref.com/en/players/b0b4fd3e/Jack-Grealish

    It relates to his club form and he is ranked against every player in his position in Europe's top 5 leagues.
     
  21. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
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    I think some people/coachs can't see the wood for trees with stats and only focus on what a players bad at or vice versa and only look at what a players good at.
     
  22. TomCUFC7

    TomCUFC7 Member

    Colchester
    England
    May 18, 2021
    Well said, all of those less favourable traits are compensated for by other traits - the same applies to Grealish.

    My only criticism of him is that he has too many touches and generally holds onto the ball too long, although if you frame it differently these are potentially his best attributes as well. I think it comes down to decision making, knowing when to release or go on a mazy run and to be fair I think he has got the balance almost spot on in the games he's played for England.
     
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  23. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Merson also said that Lionel Messi winning the Ballon D'Or was 'a joke' and that Kevin de Bruyne, the then German footballer of the year, wasn't worth £50m when he went to citeh.

    Whether he plays him or not is another matter but I don't think we need to hear too much from the 'wisdom' of Paul Merson.
     
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  24. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    The debate about Grealish’s pressing is so prevalent because it has a significant impact on the minutes he gets on the pitch. Even if we disagree with that view.

    Quite a bit of the issue is also circumstantial. I think if we had a pressing machine type CF the selections of the front three could well be different.
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Er... I think you'll find we do actually :D

    If you look back through the thread pretty much ALL of them have been said on the England boards over the years... and more.
     
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