Capitalism vs. A successful USMNT

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Sam Hamwich, Mar 29, 2021.

  1. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Well, I think the point was that fans react to specific things that can be changed. The European super league was a very specific action so it's easy for the fans to object by saying "no, leave it as it is". Moving Columbus to Austin was another specific action so again the fans had a clear goal to rally around - "don't move the team". Fans in MLS often express displeasure at specific things and sometimes they even win.

    But if your objection is that the USMNT is not doing as well as it should, it's meaningless to say "they should do better", what matters is the specific things that the various organizations should be doing. But what those things are is pretty complicated, and there isn't clear agreement about it across the fanbase, so you wouldn't expect to see a fan movement on this.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If like to know if any fans in the world that hold their premier domestic league accountable for the performance of their NT.
     
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  3. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    I was responding to someone stating MLS fans don't stand up for themselves essentially.

    Go ask the person I was responding to why he made comments about things he knows nothing about.
     
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  4. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    The poster said the following:

    There is zero accountabilty or pressure imposed upon the decision makers in the US in terms of what happens with the sport in the USA. zero.

    That seems pretty straightforward to me.
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You want MLS fans to protest against soccer on the field?

    I mean pre-Covid, Houston and San Jose fans had protested by not showing up at stadiums that had a long record of sellouts.

    In general there's not much to protest about on the field as the standard of soccer is improving in front of our eyes.

    At times Atlanta, LAFC and Toronto have played a beautiful game but we're getting to the stage where teams which have invested heavily in youth are outperforming some of the big spenders.
     
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  6. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    He specifically brought up MLS fans and said, "can you imagine MLS fans doing XYX"

    He was on a rant about US Fans being "docile" etc.

    I simply countered that MLS fans have routinely pushed back against MLS and their FO's and won the standoffs frequently enough.

    They aren't afraid to stand up for what they want and aren't afraid to ruffle feathers and piss people off in the process. Just because they aren't members of the vocal social media USMNT nutjob brigade doesn't mean all soccer fans in the US don't fight for what they want/believe.

    A vocal minority crying and bitching doesn't make them right in their views/opinions.
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless you're on the message boards or Facebook groups you wouldn't know how fans interact with their FOs.

    The NYC FO and stadium authorities have been pretty good at listening to the fan groups and liberalizing their approach to spectator behavior.

    I don't know if there are any baseball fan groups who interact in an adult way with MLB authorities.
     

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