YNT-eligible lower division-pro players: 2021 IN-SEASON thread

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  1. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    That would put them on the academy schedule instead of MLS. Maybe they take a winter break and play over the summer?
     
  2. ElkHaven

    ElkHaven Member

    Liverpool FC
    Netherlands
    Feb 14, 2020
    Been watching Dewsnup in goal for awhile now. Hard not to miss this rising talent. I haven’t observed really any dumb errors. If anything it’s the opposite. He’s a very poised, powerful young goal keeper. Stays very calm under pressure and is not prone to poor decision making. Watch him on ESPN+ and you’ll see what I mean.
     
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  3. ussoccer97531

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    #203 ussoccer97531, Jun 2, 2021
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    Very true. Since writing this, I watched his game from last Wednesday. I thought he had another good performance.

    What I was referring to was what I had seen a year or two ago. I post in the section about just about every game I watch to document for my own purposes.

    Here that is: https://www.bigsoccer.com/threadloom/search?query=Dewsnup forum:"255,255,255,255" user:"ussoccer97531,ussoccer97531,ussoccer97531,ussoccer97531"&sort=date&tab=824

    You may have a point though. I don't think I ever suggested Dewsnup makes so many awful errors, but comparing him to most of the the other top '04 keepers, he wasn't standing out in his consistency of lack of errors at 14-16. There were guys in that age group who are nowhere near as talented that were comparable to him in that area. Part of that may be unfair to Dewsnup.

    The other elite GK in that age group, Chris Brady, plays like he's about 30 years old. He was the best goalie in USL L1 last season. Compared to Brady, Dewsnup is more raw and error-prone (but has higher upside IMO). Compared to most, he's not error-prone. I probably shouldn't be comparing him to the other elite goalie in his age group, and should instead be evaluating him on his own merits. Comparing Brady to Dewsnup in some areas would see the same type of issue for Brady where Brady isn't as good as Dewsnup in some areas. The issue you run into there is that you want to evaluate the elite players on a more demanding scale. Is that compared to the other elite players or is that some scale that is completely devoid of comparisons, historic and current? I can see though what you are saying.
     
  4. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #204 David Kerr, Jun 2, 2021
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    It’s been confirmed internally for quite some time. Covid had been delaying the launch date

    Overall I have more pro’s with the league than cons. I think MLS will be better off with this. I also like the idea of MLS and USL not being as intertwined until full pro/rel happens (if it ever happens). This will also give players a different option on should they go to college soccer or not and should either force the NCAA to adapt their rules or we see a lot of prospects leave for MLS u23
     
  5. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    '05.

     
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  6. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watched the Louisville City academy a couple weeks ago, he was one of the better players they had among all age groups
     
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  7. EDH Highlander

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Dec 19, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. ussoccer97531

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  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

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    Real Monarchs: Jeff Dewsnup ('04) had a solid game. Made a few saves, and looked comfortable otherwise. The second goal he gave up he could've maybe done a little better on, but it was far from his fault. He's trying to be aggressive to cut down a good chance to score late in the game with his team losing. The attacker simply made a good play to take advantage of Dewsnup's aggressiveness. Later in his career he may hold his positioning, and trust his reflexes to stop any shot without challenging the cutting down the angle of the attacker as much right away.

    Jaziel Orozco ('03) played RCB. He struggled with turning the ball over in bad areas, and while I think a 3-CB look is better for him than playing the position in a back 4, I think the physicality of the position in the pro game gives him trouble. I think he's better suited as a RB. Chris Garcia ('03) came on in the second half, and had his weakest performance of the season. He wasn't able to have much impact, nor did Pearse O'Brien ('04) who came on late, and wasn't able to impact it either.

    NYRB II: Roald Mitchell ('03) had another good performance. He scored a goal that I thought the referee's assistant made a bad call on. They called it offside, but I thought the pass from Jake Lacava ('01) was played while Mitchell wasn't yet behind the final defender. It was close, but even with the bad camera angles, it looked clear enough to me, and the assistant should've seen it. Mitchell also missed another good chance (he's not a good finisher), and had a few other chances. It was another active performance. He's getting better at this level, and is now impacting almost every game. LaCava, as mentioned, should've had an assist to Mitchell. He had a very active game, and was driving forward with the ball through midfield (in a different role from his usual winger role). It was a good rebound performance after a few weaker games from him in a row.

    Serge Ngoma ('05) looked a lot more dynamic than what I had previously seen last season. He was very young for the level last season, so it would not be surprising if he's more talented than he showed last season. It's hard for a 14/15 year old to keep up in a pro league, so hopefully what he showed in this game off the bench is closer to his talent level than what he showed last season.

    Ft. Lauderdale vs. New England II: There wasn't much to mention from this game. I only tuned into the end of the game where Dairon Reyes ('03) and Noel Buck ('05) were subbed in late. I didn't have much to mention from either of those players, or the other young Americans on the pitch at the time, Noah Allen ('04), and Ethan Hardin ('03), but I did want to note that I watched part of this game.

    Loudoun: Jacob Greene ('03) had a good performance at RWB. He's a left-footed fullback, so he did well out of position. He's an effective player, but lacks the dynamic ability to have a very high ceiling. I wouldn't say he has any big strengths, but there aren't any big weaknesses either. He's already pretty good, so I think this season in USL is about getting him game time at the pro level. He could probably play in MLS next season. Jeremy Garay ('03) hasn't been bad this season in a defensive midfield role. He's not on a first team contract, and I don't know if he'll get one. He's not an exciting player. Defensive style of defensive midfielder. Pretty good with the defensive responsibilities of the game, but not a great passer or the most athletic. He's not too bad in any part of the game though either.

    Theodore Ku-DiPietro ('02) was playing in a newer role as one of two holding midfielders in a 3-4-2-1 (along with Garay). He looked good in that role. He was the more attacking of the two holding midfielders. He drove forward with the ball, and played some nice passes. I'm not sure he has the defensive game to play as a #8, but it'd be a worthwhile experiment. I doubt he'll make it as an attacker in MLS. Abdellatif Aboukoura ('04) came off the bench late in the game playing as a RW. I hadn't seen this guy play before. He played quick, and combined well with teammates. I didn't see enough to say how good he is, but the few touches he had were good plays.

    Los Dos: This was probably the weakest game I've seen this season from Marcus Ferkranus ('03). He wasn't bad, which speaks to how well he's played this season, but it was an average game with some sloppy decisions, passing, and defending. He wasn't the only player though. It was a bad team performance (in a game they actually won), so the whole team might've dragged each other down. Sebastian Nava ('03) came off the bench, and got an assist. He hasn't had the best season, but I thought it was notable that he was able to get on the scoresheet with an assist, given his end product has been the biggest problem with his game.

    Las Vegas (LAFC reserves): Alex Rando ('01) continues to play well in goal. He made a few nice saves, looked comfortable on set pieces, and is better playing out of the back than I initially thought. I thought that Julian Gaines ('02) and Antonio Leone ('04) had quiet, but not bad, performances at RB and CB, respectively. Paul Son ('03) was playing LB. This was the first extended look I have seen of his game. I don't think he's much of a prospect, but I've only seen less than two full games, so I'm not going on much.

    Atlanta II: I can see why George Campbell ('01) doesn't play that much yet for the first team. While he's athletic, he makes good plays defending 1v1 or in the air, he's always scrambling. With the ball and without, he doesn't make enough clean plays. He didn't play as frantic in Atlanta's academy. It may be a problem with the speed of the pro game.
     
  10. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roald Mitchell is very quickly entering into the u20 YNT pool for me. He is really pushing to jump Patrick Weah. Roald has looked skilled and dangerous with a good baseline of skills to move up to a good level as a future pro.
     
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  11. ussoccer97531

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    Fernando Delgado (‘06) is on the bench for Real Monarchs. He’s a GK.
     
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  12. ussoccer97531

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  13. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On a related note…

     
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  15. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Dru Yearwood has been such a disaster. It’s funny to me these clubs that have serious youth talent and consistently blow it with the big signing.
     
  16. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jose Gallegos played well last night for San Antonio. He just came back from an injury, so he's still not fully fit. Hope he's sold to some club in Europe, this summer.
     
  17. Carefree1961

    Carefree1961 New Member

    Chelsea
    England
    Jun 6, 2021
    Noel Buck (05) Revolution II @ Richmond

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  18. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    after gnashing our teeth at gomez “training” with mexico and seeing dike/reynolds traveling with the team while not being officially on it i am wondering if that will become a new dual national recruitment tool for gregg that hopefully starts with gomez
     
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  19. Kombucha

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    Dike was brought along as muscle. Enforcer.
     
  20. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
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    United States
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  21. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Looks like the idea of trying to keep some first team players fit backfired pretty badly.

    I’m not a fan of this MLS2 idea. USL is working pretty well as a place to develop some of our guys. Of course I’m looking at this from a US youth development perspective rather than a MLS business model perspective.

    Long-term it could work but it might not, and short-term it’s likely going to mean we see lower competition levels as it will be more youth vs. youth. For teams that don’t have a 2nd team in USL or a strong affiliate USL team it should provide benefit, but most of those teams have pretty weak academies anyways.

    As a comparison how has PL2 worked to develop EPL players versus the Championship?
     
  22. ussoccer97531

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  23. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
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    FC Dallas
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  25. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No longer YNT eligible, but a good catching-up-with guy.

    Quite the circle of life to see him trialing with FC Dallas' reserve team.
     

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