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Discussion in 'AS Roma' started by DDR, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #32626 falvo, May 29, 2021
    Last edited: May 29, 2021
    Pulisic in!

    How about that! First American player to play in a Champions League final!
     
  2. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Ay look an Italian team won the final.
     
  3. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    City had one shot on target. The closest they came to goal in the second half was the Stoke City long throw in dying mins of injury time.
     
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  4. Midfield General

    Jun 14, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That Pep, what a wizard!
     
  5. Henchag

    Henchag Member+

    Aug 26, 2009
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That high line on the first goal cost Man city the title. Thats why I don't like Guardiola, and managers similar to him who play high line attacking/possession football.
    For what Guardiola has been given to spend, billions of dollars over the last 10 - 15 years...he has achieved way little.
     
  6. whill4

    whill4 Moderator
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    AS Roma
    Sep 11, 2011
    Returning Video Tapes
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    City really need a real striker. It's impressive what they did this season mostly relying on Foden and Gundogen as false 9's, but similar to Spain vs Italy in 2012, false 9 vs 3 CB's is not going to have a good time.
     
  7. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020

    You read my mind. What is he at $1.2 billion spent? Doing God's work making all those average players into geniuses.

    Love Pep! Pep de best.
     
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  8. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020

    Well it's only been a tactic that has been used to shut down his system since 2012. I guess it must be catching on. They say that the science ends up being about 10 years ahead of what you find in clinic. Pep getting schooled has become the norm these days, hasn't it? :)
     
  9. decola

    decola Member+

    Sep 12, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Crazy how many ex Roma players have won the CL these past few years...

    Alisson, Salah, Rudiger, Emerson

    All Sabatini specials
     
  10. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020
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  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #32636 falvo, May 31, 2021
    Last edited: May 31, 2021
    Fair question is, why couldn't they have done this while they were at Roma?

    Has the Serie A (and/or Roma) turned into a farm team to groom , devlop and sell players into becoming champions elsewhere?
     
  12. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020
  13. Haakon24

    Haakon24 Member+

    Mar 15, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Because Liverpool have world class players in every single position while we have 3 total in our squad in a good year? lol
     
  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #32639 falvo, May 31, 2021
    Last edited: May 31, 2021
    But Roma at the time also had world class national team level players as well , along with those same guys who were also only 3-4 years younger. If anything they should have been just as good or maybe even better as they were all in their prime playing ages.

    There has to be more to it because I don’t believe they all became magically better in the EPL as opposed to playing in the Serie A. I mean unless
    It’s the coaching or that the tournament is rigged.
     
  15. Haakon24

    Haakon24 Member+

    Mar 15, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Roma should have been as good or even better? Get real.

    I know you’ve gone in circles with someone else over this already, but Alisson was just as good if not better at Roma, Salah “improved” because he was made the main man instead of feeding Dzeko.
     
  16. LordNelson

    LordNelson Member+

    May 29, 2012
    London
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Nah. Down to a pathetic and cowardly Italian mentality. No one was really up to taking Juve on, even though they were for the taking for many years.

    Of course, Pallotta's buy cheap sell high ( although not really high enough ) screwd us over.
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #32642 falvo, May 31, 2021
    Last edited: May 31, 2021
    Exactly and if you are good now, you were good then. I still see no reason on why those players (Salah, Alisson Becker , Antonio Rüdiger and Emerson Palmieri) could wn elsewhere but not at Roma ...nor do I believe in all this EPL superiority over the Serie A.

    Roma in those years had good , top players just as well. Along with Dzeko they had Nainggolan who was starting for Belgium , DeRossi & Florenzi who were starting for the Italian national team on the that went through the quarterfinals of Euro 2016 only losing on pk's to Germany. They also will have started in the 2018 WC had Italy qualifed.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    If only we could attract Pep who could turn the rest into geniuses too. Problem solved.
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Or if José Mourinho can come up with some Inter 2009-2010 magic....
     
  20. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    So you mean money to buy players with?
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #32646 falvo, Jun 1, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2021
    To a point but I’m not entirely sure though. As I recall , he inherited Mancini’s winning team.

    He did buy Milito from Genoa and his goals helped a lot. Selling Ibrahimovic also helped buy or pay for players. Getting Pandev , Lucio and Wesley Sneijder were good additions too but I still feel Mancini had already built a winner as he won 3 scudetti in a row and 2 Italian Cups.

    The foundation was already there but Mourinho did get all the credit though...
     
  22. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    Selling Imbrahimovic and bringing in Eto'o, Sneijder and Milito, are three big pieces to that teams CL success.

    Also Thiago Motta to help Cambiasso destroy other teams midfields.

    Pandev supported Milito up front and Lucio was brought in to shore up the defense.

    Significant changes IMO, not just minor cosmetics.
     
  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #32648 falvo, Jun 1, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2021
    I forgot about Samuel Eto'o. He was a good one.

    I don't recall how Thiago Motta too much at Inter but Esteban Cambiasso was Mancini's guy.
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Carlo Ancelotti has left Everton to become head coach of Real Madrid ...
     
  25. The Verv

    The Verv Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    Motta brought in by Momo to help Cambiasso destroy other teams midfield.
     

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