Colorado Rapids v. Houston Dynamo, Saturday, May 15

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by zolafan, May 13, 2021.

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Result?

Poll closed May 15, 2021.
  1. Dynamo win

    4 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Dynamo tie

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Dynamo lose

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. Has there ever been a "Kroenke Out" demonstration at DGSP?

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. zolafan

    zolafan Member

    Aug 10, 2004
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who: Colorado Rapids v. Houston Dynamo
    When: Saturday, May 15 @ 8:00 pm CDT
    Where: Dick's Sporting Goods Park, Commerce City, CO
    Records: Colorado Rapids (2-1-1), 6th MLS West
    Houston Dynamo (2-1-2), 4th MLS West
    TV: KTBU-55
    Radio: Streaming/TUDN Radio 1010 am (Spanish)

    This is the 6th regular season game of 2021 for Houston and the 5th for Colorado. Dick's Sporting Goods Park is allowing limited attendance.

    This is the first regular season meeting this year between Houston and Colorado. The teams will play in Houston twice, in August and October.

    In 2020 the teams played twice. They drew 1-1 in Colorado in September. Colorado won 2-1 in Houston in November.

    Colorado's most recent game was a 3-2 home win over Minnesota on May 8. The Rapids are 3-1-1 in their last 5 regular season games going back to last year, scoring 7 goals and allowing 6. They were 3-1-2 at DGSP last year and are 1-1-0 so far this year. After the Dynamo game they next visit LAFC on May 22.

    The Dynamo are 2-1-2 in the last 5 league games, scoring 6 goals and allowing 5. They were 1-6-3 in away games (excluding the MLS is Back tournament) in 2020 and are 0-1-1 so far this year.

    The Dynamo next host Vancouver on May 22 and then play away at Sporting KC on May 29.
     
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  2. zolafan

    zolafan Member

    Aug 10, 2004
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dynamo @ Colorado, all-time:

    04/29/06 COR 0-1 HOU
    07/26/06 COR 1-0 HOU
    05/05/07 COR 1-3 HOU
    08/11/07 COR 1-0 HOU
    06/21/08 COR 0-0 HOU
    10/04/08 COR 1-3 HOU
    08/30/09 COR 1-0 HOU
    08/28/10 COR 3-0 HOU
    07/03/11 COR 0-0 HOU
    10/27/12 COR 2-0 HOU
    06/01/14 COR 3-0 HOU
    08/26/15 COR 2-1 HOU
    10/23/16 COR 1-1 HOU
    07/01/17 COR 3-1 HOU
    07/14/18 COR 0-0 HOU
    03/30/19 COR 1-4 HOU
    09/09/20 COR 1-1 HOU

    The Dynamo are 4-8-5 with 14 goals scored and 21 allowed.
     
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  3. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    I don't know why, but I think we win this one.
     
  4. zolafan

    zolafan Member

    Aug 10, 2004
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D'oh re those typos for DSGP. This is why I'm just the backup...;)
     
  5. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Midweek game to now a Saturday night game, let's see how our guys deal with the turn around, travel and of course the altitude.

    DALE DYNAMO!!!
     
  6. OnceAggie

    OnceAggie Member

    Apr 23, 2016
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    They wont start Darwin over lemonie ?? They dont' even let him make the trip him playing underneath Ramirez would be deadly. dang
     
  7. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #7 juvechelsea, May 15, 2021
    Last edited: May 15, 2021
    i've decided what we do that leaves people open in the defender-mid gap is we turn and run back to our formation slots as opposed to mark people. shape at the expense of marking. so we're "in position to defend" but in running there just gave our men 10 or so yards of space in front of them.

    on the first rapids goal, all the defenders run back to the 6 in line facing their own net but there are few attackers there. the scorer is at the spot all alone because they all favored shape over marking. maybe it's i came from "man" systems but to me in those situations you find a man instead of emphasize shape to a pointless degree. we have more than enough bodies back, just the only one being marked is the crosser.

    second goal, the targets are marked, the defender just doesn't jump. and no one closes the crosser that time.

    the first goal is more typical of our problems.

    [third, ick, less said the better.]

    people do understand backpedalling? or finding people to mark when they are on a rush in the danger zone?
     
  8. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    ramirez is another player being wasted, i think if we're going to walk the ball up he could play wide fine. his finish is the sort of precision effort we generally lack.
     
  9. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    i wonder if the assistant got to pick that weird 523 formation. i didn't get having two people to chase the whole opposing midfield. 3 of the 5 backs were goofy choices.

    if you're gonna play defensive with 5 backs why not 541. or at least 532. like you're playing for a tie. 5 backs and 3 forwards is like you couldn't make up your mind.
     
  10. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we lost to a bunch of granolas high on edibles

    this was the worst game performance of the year against a team that is almost as bad as us. what a joke. Quintero better start Saturday or get sold the week after. I'm tired of this mad scientist approach to my team. Get a direction and stick with it.

    PS

    damnit
     
  11. Varus

    Varus Member

    Feb 5, 2015
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Writing is on the wall for Quintero. They’ll trade him this summer.
     
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  12. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 3rd goal - which was sort of a deflating killer goal - was just awful by Maric but then again why are we throwing in from about 40 yards out and ending up with a back pass to the keeper that he takes 2 yards from the endline? In what sane soccer world are we using Maric to switch fields and distribute with his feet?
     
  13. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we call that play the "Hainault"
     
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  14. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    why didn't they trade him in the winter if they foresaw this. he was sitting opening day. heck, i think he was sitting early in preseason. this is not oduro vs ching.

    to me teams have more cap freedom in the winter. by summer many teams have fairly built out cap structures. only a few teams like us have idle cap cash to spend, and most of them are probably not shopping for over-30 players.
     
  15. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    the subtle mistake maric made was he was fed a ball outside the poles but he turned it inside in front of the net to try and get the long ball around the guy and out. also as my options dwindle angle it out or play it sideways. height and distance, and wide, was drilled in me. clear the pressure.

    some of this is this sweeper keeper fashion nonsense.
     
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  16. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That type of spirit crushing, momentuem swinging clusterfuc{ of a gifted goal to the opposition is beyond amature hour. I mean not only is that type of bone headed error not witnessed at the Texas Varsity high school level here in town but even down to the U-14 scene. That type of error is child like. U-7 level play.
    A goalie...
    CAN.
    NOT.
    SCREW UP. Like that!!!

    In the first 120 so years of the sport I would like to think that the one player on a team who could use his or her entire body, the playing back to the goalie was perfectly normal and acceptable as the goalie was able to scoop up any kicked ball by a teammate. That changed in the Laws of the Game in 1992. SO since then, playing a negative kick to your own goalie grew into something a goalie had to now "deal" with. I.e. play the pass back with their own feet. To answer your question, in no sane world is the keeper these days expected to be some sweeper keeper unless it's a Jorge Campos like goalie that is an accomplished field player as well as class goalie. I mean our back line was hoofing long balls to no body all night and it is crap soccer to just gift the ball while in possession right back to the other team. Asking a goalie to deal with issues near his goal mouth and shit can and will happen. I recall MLS Cup 2017 wasn't it where the Columbus goalie kicked it off the Portland forward early on in the Cup Final and it was a death blow for them.

    Spot on!
    So if the one time our defenders have to chose between another gifted long ball up the field or playing a back pass to Maric, just frickin' kick that ball up field! Modern association football with this build outta the back via a goalie is for the birds!
     
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  17. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    but i'm also saying if the pressuring forward has me pointed to the sideline as the keeper getting the backpass, and i am outside the post, i stay outside the post and hit the ball in the direction of that sideline. play what you're given. the back passer had fed him outside the post. so the pass itself can't be an own goal and the keeper is fed to space and where a ricochet can't go in. only way that's a goal is turn it back inside where the ricochet heads netward. if i play how i am facing that ball goes out for a throw, or if he manages a block, harmless, over endline, goal kick.

    if as a defender you are stuck in a corner being chased, if there is no easy pass, you just whack it with the wide foot and either get it cleared or get it blocked out. worst possible outcome is try and dribble out, or turn it back inside looking for a pass. you teach kids on tiny fields don't roll hopeful balls across the face of the net because you get nervous.

    he takes about two touches before the kick is also part of the problem. hits that first time with 15 yards' space fine della commedia.

    personally the throw in should go upfield unless someone's open, and i don't get the modern enthusiasm for 105 yard buildup and theories on getting the other team to stretch out. let's remove several high defenders behind the throw from the play and go 70 yards. you were past bassett. we had to literally play him back into that situation.
     
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  18. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Re Fuenmayor, I am not big on hope. He has a track record, a tendency to dive in, a lack of foot speed or jumping ability. The idea he grows is naively optimistic. Part of this team's problem is the shift from Kinnear to Jordan, from ruthless culling of the roster to having Lundkvist around for years. Of hope. Of "maybe next year," as opposed to "not this guy, maybe the next."

    "Hope" is for first year players, prospects, and 18 year olds whose games can still develop, and who might physically grow or gain foot speed. In their 20s they are what they are. Dempsey is one of the few players I saw improve over time, and I am sure that was earned after practice.
     
  19. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Your pictures underline my point on the defense. I agree where is Jones. But you can also see clearly where they are more concerned with maintaining shape than marking and the other team gets open and a goal despite being far outnumbered.

    https://www.coloradorapids.com/vide...ids-score-three-in-action-packed-opening-half

    Answer to your jones question is barely moving and jogging back behind the play. maybe he assumed 5 could cover 3. We have had a recurring problem with no DM marking a ball squared back behind the defensive line to the spot or 18. The defense is back but a whole is there in front of them. And like I said, they are more concerned with being in a line than marking.

    Goal also underlines the lack of backline footspeed in that they basically are able to treat a keeper kick like a throughball when we can see it coming, and no one can cover Lundkvist. Which is amazing with 5 backs. How immobile do you have to be where you can't cut off a danger ball just a few yards between you and the next guy?
     

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