Player ratings: https://www.90min.com/posts/chelsea-0-1-arsenal-player-ratings 90 Minutes rates everybody a 5 or a 6 except for Gilmour, who gets a 4. Mount, CHO, Ziyech get 6 in attack, while Puli, Kai and Giroud get a 5. On Pulisic: "Thought he'd equalised but was denied by the offside flag. Has struggled for consistency throughout his Chelsea career and this was another off-day." https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/chelsea-fc-player-ratings-vs-arsenal-kai-havertz-b934827.html The Evening Standard rates everybody a 6 except for Kai (4) and Puli (5), and Mount (7). Of the subs, CHO gets a 6, Ziyech and Giroud a 5 like Puli. On Pulisic: "Sprung to life in moments, but not enough to really damage Arsenal. Did he need to get a tough on Havertz’ header that was ruled out for offside." https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/chelsea-player-ratings-vs-arsenal-20584955 Football London also gives 6 to every starter except for Jorginho and Chilwell (5), and Thiago Silva is the Chelsea MOTM (7). All subs got 5. On Pulisic: "The only one of the attacking three to keep his spot after the win at City, Pulisic was moved over to the right flank but struggled to have an impact. His sole effort on goal in the opening 45 minutes was a tame header over the crossbar and while he did bundle the ball home in the second period from a corner, the winger was well offside in the build-up." https://www.westlondonsport.com/chelsea/football-chelsea-arsenal-ratings0186074 West London Sport rates them 6 and 7 except for Jorginho (5). Puli gets a 6 and this blurb: "A frustrating evening for Pulisic, who should have done better with a headed chance from a corner in the first period. He was lively and always on the cusp of making a telling contribution without actually managing to do so." So he was slightly below average for the English press, but nothing particularly bad. Jorginho, Havertz rated lower. Mount, CHO rated higher. Giroud about the same as Puli, and Thiago Silva the MOTM for Chelsea.
Who are Chelsea rumored or likely to bring in this summer? I'm curious if Tuchel feels he can still work with Werner and Pulisic up top or if he wants competition for them both.
Besides the well-known Sancho rumors, they talk in their boards about rumors of the club going for Jonathan Bamba (Lille). I guess it's one or the other, not both.
Agreed, especially if the rumours about Haaland staying at BVB are true, it seems that the cash crunch for big clubs is real. I can't imagine in a normal transfer market that teams like PSG, City, Madrid would bat an eye at 100M for a striker like Haaland.
It’s crazy that someone would give him a lower rating than Jorginho, who was the difference between a dominating draw and an ugly loss. Also CHO was terrible.
Just as a point of reference, 538 has recalculated the Premier League odds for Champions League qualification: 80 Manchester City - 1st - 100% CL qualified 70 Manchester United - 100% CL qualified 66 Leicester - 82% to qualify 64 Chelsea - 78% to qualify 57 Liverpool - 36% to qualify 58 West Ham - 2% to qualify Tottenham and Everton - still mathematically possible The danger of course is that Liverpool - now with two games in hand - might run the table, winning their final four games, and reach 69 points. Chelsea would then need to win both remaining matches to reach 70 - even a win and a draw won't get the job done - and one of those matches is v Leicester City, a game that (by then) both teams may feel they must win.
As I said many times, just watch the games and form your own conclusions. These ratings are meaningless. CHO was mediocre, even the Chelsea faithful is starting to lose hope on him.
Yea I saw CHO getting a ton of criticism on Chelsea boards. Just too many sloppy passes. These types of games are tough on Pulisic he wasn't the problem but also wasn't the solution. People expect him to go on a dazzling run and turn the game with one play because they know he has that ability but he hasn't done it regularly enough. Chelsea still lack a star attacking player to get through tough games like this.
He's started 7 out of the last 10 games spanning 34 days. One game he was completely rested, so he's only subbed in twice over that time.
CHO was poor. But he is only 20. I have no issues with him as a prospect, I just get frustrated because so many Chelsea fans somehow think he is head and shoulders above Pulisic, even tho 3 managers have not seen it that way. they think CHO is somehow going to transform into Hazard overnight and dominate the wing for Chelsea. He has some good skills, like passing and speed, but I don’t think he is going to become the world beater they so desperately want him to become.
Pulisic is a victim of his own success. He was not incredible today, but he played smart and composed and helped the team way more than he hurt it. he can’t make a dazzling run, pass, or goal every game, especially vs teams that park the bus and play negative like Arsenal Did today. And when he doesn’t make an eye-catching play, he immediately gets labeled as “playing sh*t,” while other players playing worse somehow escape criticism.
Fair enough, but if a “star” doesn’t score or assist in a game, it doesn’t mean he played poorly or is crap overall. Unfortunately that seems to be the logic for many.
The expectation for star attackers is an assist or goal in nearly every game but I don’t disagree it doesn’t mean crap or poorly but it means below expectation. ^ edit: what a terribly written sentence lol
I totally get your point - but there must be millions of disappointed soccer fans out there, because I am struggling to think of stars who bag an assist or goal Almost every match. What would that look like? 40-50 G/A per season? Not sure who is even close to that. Messi, Ronaldo, Haaland? I want Pulisic to succeed but I’m not going to set the bar that high.
Ridiculous ratings. CHO and Havertz were terrible. Pulisic was very good, but couldn't find the final ball. If there was a man defending the near post keeping him onside for his disallowed goal he would have gotten a 7 with "Chelsea's only danger man". That didn't happen so he gets a 5 behind CHO? Come on. It's just so stupid and facile. Also - I personally think Jorginho is a very good midfielder, but he needs to be partnered with either Kante or Kova. This wasn't the right setup for Gilmour.
Don’t disagree but key word is definitely almost. Key names in recent seasons are def Ronaldo, Messi, neymar, salah, de bruyne is close actually most seasons, sterling has had multiple seasons like that, kane, and likely others. It’s not every season for all these players but they all have had multiple seasons like that. I see posts in here like if he scores in the final he will be in the conversation for best attacker in the world. Well, that means almost a goal or assist in every game. I don’t think he’s there yet so I agree with you.
Pulisic is only 22 and I still have high hopes for him, but I’m moving away from the dream that he would be an American Messi and bag 30 g/a a season. For me, if he can be a consistent starter, continue to start in the big matches, get 15-ish goal contributions a season (10 goals, 5 assists maybe?), and perform well for the USMNT team, I’ll be happy. Those are not bad numbers for a winger imo. I don’t think Chelsea have another Hazard in CP, but they have a player they should be proud to own who will contribute much to their success.
Any ratings from yesterdays game that group CHO, Havertz or Jorgi above or at the same level of Pulisic are shit. He had as good of a game as Mount. Sure Pulisic should receive blame for Chelsea's inability to unlock Arsenal, but he was still the best offensive player on the team again. Being rated below any other offensive player is ridiculous. Havertz not putting that one on one with the keeper at least on goal should get him a 1.
I do think Mount is a strong player but one rating source has him as the only consistent attacking option yesterday. I’ve stopped looking at those things for anything other than lulz.
Jorgie and Gilmour pairing is what I considerate light weight. Neither of them bring speed, strength, nor physicality to the midfield. They will be pushed around easily.
If we compare the English bias for their own players (Mount, CHO, James, etc.) and our own bias for Puli, and take the middle point, we probably approach something objective.
You pull on the 10 shirt. You let it be known that you're disappointed you're not starting. Then you get a couple starts. Pulisic himself is the reason expectations are high. He was involved in one of the goals against City, not bad. But lack of production against this 2021 version of Arsenal... ? Maybe he doesn't start the next game. With an attacking stable of 8 (Werner, Ziyech, Havertz, Mount, Giroud, CHO, Abraham, and Pulisic) competing for 3 spots, it's hard to fault Tuchel too much for that logic.