EURO 2021 Squad

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  1. Ofori

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    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    For the Oranje, who do you guys think will make the Final 23 man squad for EURO 2021?
     
  2. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    If it were up to me I’d go:


    GK: Krul, Stek, Cilessen

    RB: Dumfries, Karsdorp

    CB: De Vrij, De Ligt, Struijk, Botman

    LB: Wijndal, Blind

    CM: FdJ, Gravenberch, Koopmeiners

    AM: Klaassen, Stengs.

    RM: Berghuis, Lang

    ST/CF: Depay, Malen, Weghorst

    LM: Danjuma, Gakpo

    I realize this won’t be the selection cause FdB is a nonce. Can’t be arsed to put up what he’s likely to pick cause it’s just infuriating.
     
  3. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    No Wijnaldum?
     
  4. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I pretty much agree with your selection except one omission from your list Gini Wijnaldum.

    I include Wijnaldum who is a clear starter and Captain. No Koopmeiners for me.

    I don’t think Virgil or Blind will be fit for whatever it’s worth.

    I like Struijk, Botman, and Karsdorp to be included. Karsdorp should start.

    Don’t think Koopmeiners, Lang, Danjuma, or Gakpo make it.

    Frank to add Babel, Luuk, Tete, and ? All I can say is how?, or why?

    Would he dare consider Robben?
     
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  5. Ofori

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    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Depay or Wijnaldum or even Cilessen would be my captain
     
  6. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    It is difficult to say @ what level Robben will be or if he is capable of staying injury free but he is or atleast was in a class of his among a mediocre batch (NOW). Best player in the post Cryuff era without any doubt. And he always came back strong returning from injury & played incredibly well through injuries. He played with literally a hole in his knew & came on int he 75th minute against Cameroon (when it was 1-1) & hit the inside of the bar which Huntelaar converted. Main guy who helped win against Brazil or Uruguay. By far the best player while playing with a hole in his knee (Kudos to Sneijder as well).

    Unlike others Arjen's footballing instinct is incredible & I predict he will become a coach. His long throws, runs, vision & he is also an incredible scorer from distance. You can put him in the 80th minute & he can score a long ranger (if he has it). Ibra & many other declined with age & in pace but never lost their scoring/shooting ability completely. He will also be great in the dressing room.

    Coming to the team. It should be a 2 Striker formation. The wingers are a joke. Babel is crap. Weghorst as lead ST & Depay behind him. It is a shame that we have come from Van Basten/Kluivert/Nistelroy/Van Persie/Huntelaar to him. Even Roy Makaay was better but atleast he can score & plays @ a decent level. And Depay - He never has anywhere near the technical skill, 1st touch, vision or speed as say a Robben but can play with the ball, score & gives his heart out. The subs are all a joke attacking wise.

    De Vrij-De Ligt-Van Dijk (If he can make it) are all great as is De Jong. And then you have a bunch of mediocrity. Wijnaldum stightly better than mediocre (Decent). No elite attacking players (who knows if Nouri would have been one under different circumstances.

    Feels like an Italy type team. Good defenders & one potentially DLP (ala Pirlo but not @ that level yet), a good runner (Wijnaldum) & few decent strikers ! No 10s or Elite Wingers ! Even the STs don't have the technical ability of a Kluivert !
     
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  7. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    Cillesen can't save a penalty to save his life & will need to subbed off if it gets to that !

    Depay is the natural choice possibly followed by Wijnaldum. Both are likely starters !
     
  8. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  9. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Gullit, van Basten, Koeman, van Nistelrooy, Sneijder, and Bergkamp to cite just a few argue against this statement.
     
  10. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    #11 Jpows, May 11, 2021
    Last edited: May 11, 2021
    I hope we steer clear of Robben. People are emotional beings and love to romanticize the past. Who cares what Robben did in the past in regards to selection criteria for the EC. He’s old, over the hill, extremely injury prone, and only very recently had a good game for Groningen. Objectivity is far sought with the ones arguing for his selection.

    This whole “he’s a prominent/positive figure in the locker room” argument as a selection criteria with 0 regards for actual level and ability on the pitch at the moment is getting to new levels of idiocy.

    It’s not only FdB, mind you. Perez, the Danish analyst actually said that he doesn’t follow the Turkish league so he only has Babel’s most recent game where he scored to go on. Based on that Babel should be selected and of course his presence in the locker room.

    Talk about lazy journalism and lack of objectivity. Basic research will show you that he’s been on the bench mostly and that surely has a reason; he’s not even been good enough for Galatasaray. smh.

    I’m so over this.
     
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  11. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I have one question. How effective a midfield trio of klaassen,Wijnaldum and frenkie can be. Especially in knock out stages.
     
  12. gabrielguilarte

    Feb 23, 2016
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    I would take Donny over Klassen any day, even if he is not playing. Klassen can be a sub for me, nothing else.
     
  13. Ofori

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    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    But given the group you guys have with Ukraine, Austria and North Macedonia you should easily win this group
     
  14. Jpows

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    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    Up to this point imo Klaassen has been a case of de Vrij. Better for club than for country. Klaassen plays well in a specific set-up. It’s impossible to exclude him from the EC based on performance though. He was pivotal in Ajax title-run.

    As far as Wijnaldum goes, as I’ve said before, I’m not a big fan of his. Especially this season. At Liverpool it seems they have no problems letting him go. That has a reason.

    If it’s all the same as far as current form/level goes then we might as well put Stengs at AM with Frenkie and Gravenberch at CM. I’ve always felt Stengs had more potential as an AM than on the flanks.

    It really is a darn shame how Ihattaren has progressed this season. The best attacking mid talent on Dutch fields. This summer will be crucial for his future. Sink or swim.

    In all likeliness though it’ll probably be Klaassen Wijnaldum Frenkie. Let’s see how far we get with that midfield.
     
  15. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    If anything, these last intl games have proven that there are no “easy” games for us these days anymore. Add to that a coach like FdB and nothing will surprise me anymore this EC. I just hope for a miracle of some sort.
     
  16. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Yeah but in your group I would say you have the most strongest team in that group in terms of overall talent
     
  17. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Arguably this trio is the most balanced, and give the best combination of skillset, playability, and experience. I can live with this. Klaassen and Gini are somewhat interchangeable, and they could create an interesting dynamic. Both are runners and opportunistic poachers, who can pop in front of goal. Scorers are badly needed!! As Memphis would be double or triple-teamed, and Luuk De Jong (FdB's first choice as striker?!?) would be quite useless.

    I'd be disappointed to see De Roon as he would limit the attacking possibilities. I would not mind Gravenberch getting some minutes as subs (or even starting on the third/later game). He is the wild card, and I have a feeling he will surprise a lot people this Summer with his gusto and athleticism. Donny v.d. Beek... I think, he is out of rhythm, and will be too rusty. Koopmeiners would be the only other worthy of consideration, although I think he's more suited as a back up to Frenkie.
     
  18. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    I like this squad. I think the limit is 26 now so I will add Wijnaldum, De Roon (you need one better defensive/shut down mid). Is Blind fit? I'm not sure if Ake can go in place of Blind, or takes the last spot or I should reserve for VVD (not sure how he is recovering). We need all the wingers we can have with Stengs, Lang, Berghuis, Danjuma, Gakpo and Depay. I will not take Van Aanhotl, Veltman, Babel, LDJ, Van de Beek or anyone else (Robben is not fit).
     
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  19. Ofori

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    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Who becomes captain if Van Dijk doesn't come back in time
     
  20. Jalepinho

    Jalepinho Member

    Aug 18, 2014
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    To Cillesen's credit, he did save Messi's penalty last week...so maybe his penalties are improving...
     
  21. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  22. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Gini Wijnaldum has the captain band.
     
  23. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Messi his penalty taking is one of his main weaknesses. Has a conversion rate of 76%. Is not good.
     
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  24. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    There was a post on a economics blog about Maradona's proficiency at PKs. I looked up the statistics for the two current thought to be greatest, Messi and Ronaldo (79 and 84%). However, nobody that I am aware of compares to Ronald Koeman whose conversion rate was 92%!
     

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