News: We're Muppets, and we have a problem: Summer Transfer rumors

Maybe I've missed something as I havent been following him that closely, but by everything I've read it doesnt sound like JP is a PL caliber goalie, much less a guy ready to be back for a team that aspires to fight for the title. A quick Google shows that Hearts are the only club where hes made double digit appearances. He's 24 and couldnt manage to lock up starting jobs at Huddersfield or some 3rd division Portuguese team. He doesnt belong as backup for any PL side.

 

I get what you are saying but a loan for DDG is more likely than a loan for Henderson. I think what you're missing is that Ole made a pretty genius move in giving DDG some time with family to make the transition to Henderson as the 1 rather than just do it and cause controversy. If DDG was still the 1, he would have the job back by now, but instead Ole has given him the EL to keep him getting games. But thats very much the B competition compared to the league.

DDG will definitely be hard to move because of his wages. I could see Ole letting him know this summer that Hendo is now the 1 which would give him incentive to agree to a move. If he doesnt, then let him know he's the cup and CL goalie for next season but hes no longer the 1.

I could see DDG leaving this summer in a loan plus buy option to someone like PSG or Juve. We would probably pay some of his wages still but getting his giant salary off the books is probably a summe priority. You cant have a guy thats a 2 or 1b making 300k/week.

 

Yeah no shot that happens unless he's down to a year left on his contract and refuses to sign a new deal. Otherwise, Atletico will be asking 75 plus for him and no way Arsenal spend that kind of cash on a goalie.

 

Henderson will want games. It already looks like de Gea will be limited to cup games, maybe that includes UCL, and Henderson will play EPL games. Tifo Football did a video on de Gea's decline (I think it was posted before on these forums). It's a well done video.

It's not enough anymore to be a simple shot stopper anymore. Ederson proved why last night against PSG on that second goal. A lot of managers have rotated the pitch 90 degrees and now see goalkeepers as midfielders. It's nothing new. It's really you're classic route one football, but it's more sophisticated now.

 

A backup goalie is just that. We've had super talented backup for years now, but it is very easy to bench the number 2 for an entire season.

 

Not hard to keep a backup keeper benched but at the same time, things happen that are out of anyone's control. What can be controlled is having a viable contingency plan in case something happens. If our #1 gets injured and we don't have someone capable of stepping in for him, that is simply gross negligence on Ole and the club's part.
Pereira is simply not it, based on what he's shown in the past 2 seasons: plus, as stated his contract is running down this summer. Under those circumstances, I'd sooner do everything I can to persuade Romero to stay and sign a new contract (despite what happened).
Bottom line, the backup goalkeeping situation will be another department that will need to be addressed one way or another. If it can be done internally, albeit that is unlikely (Bishop is really the only potential candidate who might be ready) then fine but it looks like we'll have to bring someone in.
Kovar is far from being ready also: great prospect but he's still a kid. Not to mention the fact that what he needs is to be in a situation where he gets to play regularly. His loan earlier this season didn't work out: just need to try it again for the coming season and hoping he continues to grow as a player...

 

Right, but if Henderson were to get injured, JP is not only a drop-off, but a liability. Lets look around the usual top 6 and see who their backups are...

City - Steffen
Pool - Adrian
Chelsea - Arriz
Spurs - Hart
Arsenal - Ryan
LC - Ward
Everton - Olsen
West Ham - Randolph

Is JP better than any of those guys? The answer is an easy, easy no.

 

Probably better than Hart.

 

It's funny to hate on Hart, but no.

JP has been so shit the only team hes ever really started for was Hearts...the year they finished last and were relegated.

 

I hope our gamble pay off, Still not 100% on Hendo. Not denying decline of DeGea but some of that is exaggerated by English media for one of their own.

 

We aren't playing the backup. Just hope we don't need him, if we do, oh well. But Arrizabalaga and Karius were both starting GKs for CL teams and JPs average isn't worse than their average. I think most people think Arrizabalaga was a meme and wasn't really that bad. He was worse than most people think he was. He let in a ludicrous number of shots.

I agree with this, I just don't want to spend $$ on a backup when we are gonna have to eat a bunch of DDGs contract to send him elsewhere. Not when it isn't a long term solution and when we have quality coming through.

 

Joel Pereira has played two games for Huddersfield this season, and conceded 7 and 4. He cannot be our backup.

That’s not a problem, we can source a veteran backup for about the cost of one or two months of De Gea’s wages. But we need a better reason why someone can be our stand-in than ‘they probably won’t play anyway’. In that case we may as well give Phil Jones the gloves.

Lee Grant effectively acted as an assistant GK coach for us. Getting another veteran in on a slightly higher budget than Grant, who this time might actually play on account of being our 2nd choice, is money well spent.

And I guarantee Hendo will get himself sent off or injured. He’s flying out of his area to challenge for the ball and doesn’t have the composure or familiarity with that role to get it right 10 times out of 10.

 

Raphael Honigstein: "In my opinion, only two English clubs are eligible for a Sancho transfer, Chelsea and #mufc. His ex-club Man City and Liverpool, on the other hand, are not." #mulive [sport1]

— utdreport (@utdreport) May 4, 2021

The fact that Chelsea could be our main competition for Sancho is a potential worry. Still believe they'll have to move a player(s) to make it happen but I suppose they're decisive and ruthless enough to do so, if they must.
As currently constituted though, they already will be among the favorites for the title next season, so that would add to their allure. As would possibly be the London factor also, especially with Sancho's family living there.
Bottom line, even more than expected previously, we'll have to move swiftly and decisively for once here. Everything (or thereabouts) has already been agreed with Sancho and his camp, according to reports. Dortmund have set the price: no haggling or attempts to play games, just get it done, sharpish. Because we know Chelsea won't dither if they have a shot at him.
That's how it will have to be, or that 2yr pursuit of Sancho will end up being all for naught...

📝 — Dortmund want a deal for Jadon Sancho done before the Euros conclude this summer, and all the interested clubs are aware of that #mufc #mujournal

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— United Journal (@theutdjournal) May 5, 2021

Dortmund will be doing everyone a favor if they hold pursuing teams to this deadline.

 

In regards to the backup GK situation, not exactly sure how viable an option he actually would be but Tom Heaton is coming to the end of his contract with Villa. Hasn't played since he went down with a knee injury a year and a half ago. He has recovered though. Would be kind of poetic as well since he did start his career at United.
He's 35 so he'd only be a short term solution but if he's still anywhere near the level he was prior to his injury, he'd be an excellent candidate for the job in my estimation, as I completely agree that this is a position we need to spend as little as possible since we are on a limited budget (and with enough other needs as it is).
Pretty sure remember seeing way back when that he's the type of guy who is liked by his teammates wherever he goes and a good presence in the dressing room, so that is another plus in his favor.

 

While I think you're definitely right about the quality of teams he's been sent to, what stands out to me is that the coaching staffs at these teams didn't even judge him good enough to be the starter. Huddersfield, as you pointed out, concede goals for fun, and their coach looked at JP and thought he would make them even worse defensively. Same story at the Portuguese and Belgium clubs he was loaned to in the past, at least that's what it looks like judging by his appearance numbers. Maybe I'm missing something with regards to an injury or something that made him unavailable.

 

Jadon Sancho wanted by four clubs as Borussia Dortmund set £150m Erling Haaland price tag | Football News | Sky Sports

The article unfortunately does not expand on who those 4 teams are, and only mentions United are in the running. I guess that could be interpreted in a number of ways...

 

Haaland looks like a beast but I’m going to be real and say I don’t really want him at United.

 

I think if it came down to it, Sancho >>> Haaland for our purposes and it really is not a difficult choice.

Goal scorers are hard to come by, but a player who can receive the ball like a CM does but dribble like a winger and and pass like a 10? That alone is gold dust, but Sancho also gets you goals.

Haaland is a beast but we don't have the right supply line for him yet.

 

The Prem thankfully coming back in line with the rest of Europe.

Official: The summer transfer window will open on June 9 and close August 31 #mulive

— utdreport (@utdreport) May 8, 2021