I saw the game. Regrettably, I missed this thread, but usually rojadirecta still provides a solid feed if you can get past all the spam ads. Quick insights: A tale of two halves. The first I noticed a slower team, and that's probably due to Noboa's presence in the midfield. It felt like a more traditional lineup before all of the new callups were made last year, and although it's not so comfortable to watch this style of play anymore from Ecuador, possession and calmness in the midfield was pretty evident. The first goal was scored in the first half by Martinez who did not squander a second attempt at a goal scoring opportunity...but a better gk might have denied the first shot and not made an immediate mistake leading to the goal. Nonetheless, Martinez did well to still score. Mena looked great and was constantly a presence. Second half- the team was a lot faster with the additions of Plata and Campana. Estrada also had a great goal. He's consistently scoring for us, which is a massive boost of morale. Both made noticeable changes that reflect the good matches we saw last year. Plata really is a game changer. Kitu Diaz was another interesting presence on the pitch and even had a great shot on goal (just missed, but he wanted to make a play...he seemed to link up well with Plata on a few occasions. The rest of the subs weren't definitively game changers but provided our coach with enough insights to help make lineup calls when it counts. GK - Dida is still our #1 but the dude was generally untested today. No real reflections on his performance as he didn't need to do THAT MUCH to be effective in front of the net. No disrespect to Bolivia, but the squad was generally outplayed for almost the entire game. I think we'd need to line up against a stronger squad to see what our team can do, but this game was great to get the rust off and test those new guys...especially Kitu that has been hyped by the BSC fans. Honestly, he did well. Credit to him, and hopefully the nationalization issue doesn't case some obscene backlash in Ecuador...by nationalization, the dude is as Ecuadorian as any of us. He is welcome if his level of play stays high- merit! Big missing parts: E. Valencia, M. Caicedo, P. Estupiñan, R. Arboleda, and C. Gruezo. Clearly the biggest battle will be between Noboa and Gruezo for a starting spot, and honestly, I can go either way on prioritizing who gets the starting slot. Reflection: Valencia + Estrada up front with Caicedo, Plata, and Mena in the midfield backed up by Estupiñan on defense should strike a lot of fear in opposing teams. If these guys stay healthy and keep their game sharp...we can make a lot of noise internationally because the individual skill and finishing ability is pretty high. The fight is for sub slots, and the only guy I'm still curious about seeing on the NT is Antonio Valencia due to the veteran leadership component and his physical strength- especially for playing teams in Europe where goons run up and down the pitch. I know I'm forgetting about Renato Ibarra in this equation, but honestly....how indispensable is he with our current roster as it is?
Man,I got a comp virus trying to watch on rojadirecta,had to unload app and someone was trying to get into one of my acts!I had a caracol link that worked last two games,but since it was a friendly,they weren’t covering it.watching replay that CDF put up on YT,but man,that narrator is horrible.
Renato is still relevant to this squad as a sub for now he more consistent at club level then most of our other options. I really hope Alvarado has his break out season in MLS. Anderson just moved to MLS lets see what happens. Munoz should be a good option too. Jhojan needs to stay consistent. Byron Castillo, Jhon Sanchez and Washignton Corozo I hope get called and included soon. Guys like Erick Castillo, Romario Ibarra, both of the Joao Rojas, Cristian Penilla, Ayrton Preciado we can start removing from the NT radar.
what I think we will look like on the Return for WCQ. GK Alexander Dominguez Pedro Ortiz Hernan Galindez DF Pervis Estupinan Anibal Chala Diego Palacios Angelo Perciado Antonio Valencia Pedro Pablo Perlaza Robert Arboleda Felix Torres Xavier Arreaga Luis Leon Franklin Guerra Moises Corozo MF: Fidel Martinez Angel Mena Gonzalo Plata Renato Ibarra Alexander Alvarado Anderson Julio Moises Caicedo Carlos Gruezo Jose Cifuentes Alan Franco Jordan Sierra Jefferson Intriago Christian Noboa Steven Mendez FW: Enner Valencia Michael Estrada Leonardo Campana Bryon Angulo XI Domiguez Preciado, Torres, Arboleda, Estupinan Mena, Gruzeo, Caicedo, Martinez Valencia, Estrada
What I would love to see in a future friendly. GK: Hernan Galindez Jose Cevallos Moises Ramirez DF Anibal Chala Diego Palacios Leonel Quinonez Byron Castillo Jhon Espinoza Anthony Landazuri Felix Torres Moises Corozo Franklin Guerra Dario Aimar Piero Hincapie Jackson Porozo MF Jordan Sierra Jefferson Intriago Jhonny Quinonez Jordy Alcivar Alexander Avvarado Anderson Julio Jhojan Julio Aldolfo Munoz Jhon Sanchez Washington Corozo FW Bryan Angulo Leonardo Campana Jordy Caicedo
There's some big games coming up for the NT. We play Brazil and Peru and then there's the copa america. A lot can change from here until then but Alfaro probably has a good idea of who he will call up. If a a list came out today this is who I thnk will be in the preliminary squad: Dominguez Ortiz Galindez Ramirez Arboleda Arreaga Torres Corozo Leon Hincapie Porozo Angelo Preciado PP Perlaza R Caicedo Estupiñan Palacios Pineida Gruezo Moises Noboa Mendez D Arroyo Alcivar Cifuentes Quiñonez Mena Plata Renato Ibarra Martinez J Carabali Sornoza Enner Estrada J Caicedo Campana Some names on this list will not make the final list for one reason or another. I think the preliminary list is like 30 players long and the final list is 23. There's some players that in my opinion are on the outside looking in. Two players from IDV come to mind - Pacho and Vite. Both don't have that much experience but we know that won't stand in the way of Alfaro. They're having good seasons and a good showing in Libertadores will work in their favor. A couple of players from Liga come to mind as well. Muñoz has had a rough going since last year. He's still out with covid if I'm not mistaken. He'll be on the pitch soon I imagine and if he performs like he was doing before he'll get a look by Alfaro. Julio is a different story. He's been inconsistent this year so far so we'll see. Jose Angulo was doing well before he got injured. He's back now so he has a chance. Our options at forward are limited so he's an interesting player to keep an eye on. I'll be keeping tabs on Ayrton Preciado. He's finally fit and starting for Santos Laguna. He's played decent from all accounts since he's been back. If he has a good finish to the season he may get a look. There's players I haven't talked about - Janner Corozo, Gaibor, Realpe. I'm probably missing some other names. It's crazy but our talent pool is deep. Picking 23 players will be tough. Alfaro will get lit up by fans and the media either way he goes.
I really wish we could test all these players in a few friendlies we have so much depth we will need like 4 friendlies to test all the players on the radar Im just gonna say it again Jordy Caicedo to Bulgaria was a good move this kid is gonna be special. These smaller Euro leagues are great for our players. Guys like Walberto Caicedo and Bryan De Jesus had good runs in Serbia and Hungary but were indisciplined. Jordy Caicedo went to Bulgaria and made it his goal to get called to the NT. He has great positioning, pace, and finishing not to mention how much of a physical beast he is. I hope to see him get called soon. In terms of Alfaro picking players I have been pretty happy so far with the calls it gonna be a tough choice but I know he has an Idea as of know for his list. Also Jefferson Intriago, Byron Castillo and Anibal Chala are main options for me to get called as well.
Intriago is MIA. He hasn't played for Juarez recently. I don't know if he's injured or if his coach simply isn't picking him. Byron Castillo is not gonna get called up any time soon. There's still doubt if he's even ecuadorian. Anibal Chala has a chance. He's started the past couple of games for his team. Estupiñan still hasn't recovered. Beder also got injured and will be out for a bit. There's still Palacios and Pineida but that's it.
It has to be an injury. He should be back soon cause he was very important to that team. And as for Castillo the media has really had their eye on him if at this point nothing has come up I think we should just go forward and give him a call. I still think about when the Rumors for Dominguez when they came up saying he was Colombian. Also the false rumors for Andy Casquete when they said he faked his age. Sadly there are people who try to shit smear and ruin people careers.
I'm thinking it's probably due to injury as well. He wasn't called up for the March friendly. He was starting all his teams games right before that too. I wouldn't trust conmebol. Those ********ers are corrupt as ********. I can see a scenario where ecuador qualifies and a team like uruguay doesn't. I wouldn't put it past them to come up with some bs and have us disqualified. It's just too risky in my opinion which sucks because he's a good player. If I'm being honest he's the second best rb we have right now. Angelo preciado is ahead of him. PP Perlaza's form has gone down this season. R Caicedo has been doing well. If we're going by form and talent then Castillo rivals Preciado. I saw the libertadores games last night. The kid Jose Hurtado impressed me. Pedro Vite too. He didn't start the game but he came on and had an impact. Pacho tiene buena salida. Defensively I didn't see enough to form an opinion. Idv dominated possession so the opposing team didn't have that many chances.
I feel like another year or two will pass by and still nothing comes out for Castillo to prove he is Colombian. Alfaro stated again that he doesnt want to risk it either so yea were def not seeing this kid on the NT. It kinds sad. I feel like every year I get more and more excited for Copa Libertadores and Sudamericana. For all our teams. I love when the Argentinean media named IDV group the hardest group and said IDV es un buen equipo ya vienen jugando bonito ya hace mucho tiempo. Renato Paiva is a very interesting caoch and I am glad our soccer is getting coaches like him. Paiva promoted all these players at once and it amazing how they are preforming. In a few more months they should be ready for a NT call up.
Yeah after Alfaro's recent interview I don't think Castillo will be called up next month. Preciado hasn't played much the past couple of months. He recently just started a game again. PP Perlaza hasn't been in good form this season. Paiva was a good hire for them. He made Pacho and Ramirez starters. Vite, Hurtado, Chavez, and Garcia are all getting consistent minutes as well. They should have won their game against Defensa and Justicia. They need a better goal scorer. Montenegro's performance was brutal.
I guess we really are gonna need Tono back him and Romario Caicedo are def gonna be needed now. If Liga were to get a coach like Paiva id be soo happy. That was a phenomenal job by them to find him. The next two matches vs Palmeiras are gonna be tough but if we manage to get 4 or 6 points against them then we are set.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Toño back. He's played primarily as a RB for Queretaro this season. Romario Caicedo has been playing well for Emelec this season. He'll get called up I imagine. Paiva is a good fit for IDV. It'd be a different story if he were coaching Liga, BSC, or Emelec. He's a coach that shares IDV's vision of promoting young talent. They're a club that's willing to ride the ups and downs that comes with that. Would they be patient with him? Would the fanbase back him after a bad stretch of results? I don't think so. In order to have a coach like Ramirez or Paiva the organizational philosophy would need to change.
He plays very attractive football tho something that Liga hasnt been doing in a WHILE :'( BSC is trying to change. Alfaro made BSC promote a tone of youth players and incorporate them into the first team not to mention that his academy was doing a great jobs producing players the past. I think some one like him would put good use into his academy and put them on top along with the rest of the team. If he were to go to Liga Esteban would respect his process. He gave Reppetto a very lengthy process and ignored complaints from the fans. His era is gonna end soon and it a bitter sweat feeling. We need a new coach and Ideas his cycle is def finished and I appreciate what he did. It scary to think who we will get next tho. We havent had much luck with coaches prior to Repetto. Esteban said it hims self who would we bring? They always do a poor jobs searching for coaches. If we were to get some one of Paivas caliber it would be a miracle. Emelec has Rocafuerte and alot of their players were promoted up from their. Teams realized that the youth acadamies work. Paiva had bad results at first and the media def put him on the spot but he corrected his errors quick. I think he would do good in any major team in this current stage of Ecuadorian football there are more and more academies appearing trying to follow IDV model look up Atlético Kin there a new one that just appeared. This is really great cause we will have all these academies producing players and fueling out NT.
They finally announced that he is Ecuadorian https://ecuagol.com/noticias/ligapr...can-que-byron-castillo-es-ecuatoriano/168897/ These rumors came out a while ago and if nothing came out after the first few months then it was pretty clear that there was no proof of him being Colombian.
Is BSC trying to change though? The only young player that gets minutes is Castillo. Yeah they promoted some players from the youth ranks but they've yet to receive playing time. Their game plan is not to promote young players. Their endgame is to nationalize foreigners. They did so with Oyola, Diaz, and Hoyos. Lopez, Piñatares, Martinez, Barrai, and Mastrian might be next. They've all been in Ecuador for 2 or 3 years. It's a joke really. Emelec has also gone away from what led to their run of success. There's some young players that deserve a chance but have yet to feature. I don't know if Liga and Repetto go their separate ways. Didn't they renew his contract not too long ago? Liga's finances are in shambles right now.
I know Alfaro wants to have a successfull youth system but yea they are still trying to get short terms goals. Bustos isn't the coach to put his youth system on the map or at the face of Barcelona. A different youth oriented coach could tho. Same goes for Emelec. Both teams have a strong base and youth structure to work off from. If Alfaro stays in BSC long enough and gets a coach who could get results and promote a youth team at the same time then we may finally see BSC make good use of their youth academy. Torreros fc does have alot of potential at the moment they are really just selling most of their talent to other teams. Deportivo Cuenca, Gualaceo, Olmedo smaller teams in Seria A & B. They are not properly using their team. There a few players that deserve playing time in the first team. Liga renewed Repetto for one more season. I really wish they could set up an affiliate team. We let go alot of talent at very early stages of their careers because we don't have an affiliate team for them to continue developing. I really miss when we had Luis Zubeldia. When we had him we were playing great and had a ton of youth in the first team. After Repettos Era is done I'm really not sure what's gonna happen. We're gonna have one shitty coach after another.
BSC are who they are. They can look at the success IDV has had but they will never follow in their footsteps. There's a lot of reasons and it's rooted in all facets of the sport. The fanbase wouldn't support it. Playing youngsters is good and all but after a bad stretch of games the mindset would shift. Fans expect results. They expect results from the top-down - president, coach and players. The thing with IDV is that the coach is backed up by organizational philosophy. Paiva knows that his job security isn't tied to results. This allows him to work in peace. Clubs like BSC, Liga, and Emelec are built differently. They're expected to contend for championships and perform well in international tournaments. IDV's project is a process that has been in place for years. It's not like BSC can just flip a switch and say okay today I'll start fielding young players. It's a process that would take 5-10 years and would at the same time compromise short term results. Can the fanbase live with that? I don't know. At the end of the day how to run a club is all subjective. Who's to say one way to run a club is better than another way? I do hope other clubs take a look at IDV's model and mirror some of their methods. I'm intrigued by their Serie B side. It's a good way for them to break in their young players. They get more out of playing there than the reserve or the youth leagues. Playing actual games is crucial in the development of a young player. A lot of players miss out on this. They get promoted to the first team but ride bench from the ages 18-20. It hinders their development.
Remember when Emelec had Sampaoli. They had so many youth player on that team and that was before Emelec acquired Rocafuete as an affiliate team. Imagine if a coach like him came now and stayed with emelec for 4 years and mad max use of their affiliate team. This is what I really hope happens to these teams. Would it be as great as IDV hell no. But It would be great to see all these teams doing well and promoting youth at the same time. Even When Liga and BSC had Zubeldia both teams had a decent amount of youth in the first team. Team may not flip the switch but a good coach can. Zubeldia had youth player despite all the signing BSC was making at the time. The same would go to them If a coach like him were to go now to BSC with Torreros FC and they managed to keep him for a long time. We would see great things come out of them. The potential in these 2 teams are there.
The coach is a conductor of the club's organizational philosophy. In the case of IDV, Ramirez and Paiva share the same vision. They understand that it's a process and there will be ups and downs. Look at yesterday's game. They were hammered 5-0. Granted the opposing team was the defending Libertadores champions but still. Not much will change for them moving forward. Their style of play will not change. They will still give young players a chance. At another club a result like that would put the coach on the hot seat. If it were BSC or Emelec the fans would demand the coach get fired. The big teams in Ecuador have potential to produce young players. Whether they follow that direction is a different story.
Which strikers should Ecuador call up for the games against Brazil and the Copa America? Enner and Estrada are locks. Who else will Alfaro call up though. Campana, Garces, Jordy Caicedo, Brayan Angulo, and Jose Angulo are options. Who else am I missing?
Im a fan of including each and every single one of these players to the team but Brayan Angulo and Jordy Caicedo need to be called to a friendly first to see what they can bring to the team. I have a feeling Brayan could do great on the NT but I could be wrong he is VERY and I mean VERY slowly getting rhythm playing and scouring. He not consistently starting/playing and has only really scored in small games Copa MX/ Concacaf champions. Dudes averaging about 30 min per game. Jordy Caicedo is having a stellar season I am a huge fan of his game and know he will be a great player. That being said he still needs to go threw the Process and compete with players that have already been interrelated to the NT. I want to see him on the next friendly for sure tho. Jose Angulo has the potential to become great again but it is still too early IMO. Lets give him some more time before getting him back on the NT. He is showing sparks of greatness tho let get him a little more consistent and confident. Alfaro seems to be fond of Campana. He been called before played and has gotten some playing time and scored recently with his team. Garces is Experienced has been called before and I cant deny the fact that he is doing good at BSC. He didnt let him self get benched by Mastriani he found his spot on the team and will most likely be called to the next upcoming games.