UEFA Superleague idea

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by barroldinho, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. welshbairn

    welshbairn Member+

    Clachnacuddin
    Scotland
    Jul 31, 2019
    Hearing that there's a clause in the SL contract for founders that if a majority of Barcelona members vote against them joining, all the others can pull out free of penalty.
     
  2. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    No, they are an excellent example why we shouldn't have a Super league. Shakhtar has no chance to compete against the best if the best are not in the competition. There is no interest in winning the top continental competition if it is no longer a top continental competition.

    PS. Shakhtar will finish second in UPL this season. (Dynamo Kyiv have clinched the title already)
     
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  3. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    They are behaving like a governing body. They are the organization that governs football competitions making sure we are all competing in the same pyramide, they provide rules that govern the game, etc.

    If UEFA is no more there would have to be another organization that has to do their job.
     
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  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    UEFA is a accountable to its 55 member associations. Each of those associations is accountable to its members. The influence of professional clubs varies by country.

    EU free trade, competition and anti-trust laws are a lot stricter than US laws and sports don't get a break. Switzerland is part of EFTA. In other words it has a free trade agreement with the EU and a such is subject to the same laws.
     
  5. It is bloody tyring to read people spouting utter nonsense about UEFA/FIFA, mostly crap from the internet. Itwould be very helpful if some go and inform themselves before making daft accusations.
     
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  6. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I think there will still be a decent amount of interest. After all the Europa League gets a good amount of interest by non giant clubs , and a continental league minus just 12 teams would still be bigger than the current EL.

    But I definitely agree with your larger point that Shakhtar is a good example of a club that would get hurt by the formation of a SL. The CL is the only chance for the people of Ukraine to see a Messi or Ronaldo in their country. Moreover, Shaktar are still quite competitive in the CL group stage.

    I really have no idea what point that poster you responded to was trying to make.
     
  7. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    There is only one Super League and thats the FA Womens Super League!
     
  8. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    These Champions League matches, the last four clubs standing, are the one half of the Super League. Without them, UEFA is more meaningless.:whistling:
    UEFA is just being scared of loosing these spectacular matches.:thumbsup:
    Super League would form another organisation that could govern the exclusive dozen. We will hear more these attempts and UEFA will always open their piggy bank for the Big Twelve.:D
     
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  9. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I think by the time the """elite""" clubs try this again there will already be legislation in place making it impossible.
     
  10. welshbairn

    welshbairn Member+

    Clachnacuddin
    Scotland
    Jul 31, 2019
    Expect the rule will be automatic expulsion from their national associations and leagues if they set up on their own. Doubt there's any way of banning it altogether.
     
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  11. You could have used this weekend on reading up about what exactly UEFA is and does, instead of going on with I dunno where you got that nonsense you keep on spouting.
    You also could have spent some time this weekend to inform you about the sources of the UEFA's revenues and where these went to.
    You could also spent some time to inform yourself about the size of their "piggy bank", which is just a fraction of what the ESL clubs expect to earn in that ESL.

    You continue to litter this thread with utter nonsense and you're close to be put on ignore for wasting my time.
     
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  12. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    But today, in order to end up in the EL, Shakhtar and Dynamo do have to go through the preliminaries or group stage of the CL. So, Shakhtar, at least theoretically, has a chance to win the top club competition. Part of the problem with the EL is that even winning does not make you better than 17th best club.
     
  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    That's one way to look at it, but imo if you win 5 knockout rounds you did much better than a team that finished with one more point in CL group stage before crashing out in CL round of 16.
     
  14. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I don't care that much about UEFA, FIFA. I just follow football.:thumbsup:
    I don't see any advantages for myself, if I start to learn, read about them.:D This is the waste of my precious time.
    You can place me on your ignore list. I don't mind.:thumbsup:
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the first couple of rounds tended to be walkovers.
     
  16. So if you're so ignorant to not inform yourself, than donot make comments on that. Simple. If you do know shit keep shut.
    Anyway it's illuminating to read someone gloating about staying ignorant. Shows your intellectual level, if that wasnot apparent yet from your posting.
     
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  17. welshbairn

    welshbairn Member+

    Clachnacuddin
    Scotland
    Jul 31, 2019
    Wish you lot could just agree to disagree sometimes.
     
  18. FC Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus refused reintegration measures of UEFA for the esl clubs.
    The other 9 have committed to the existing competitions and agreed to give up 5% of their UEFA revenues for next season.
    The 9 will pay 15 million as a sign of goodwill for children, youth and football.
     
  19. shizzle787

    shizzle787 Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looks like the historical coefficient places might not happen after all. Yes.
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/footbal ... r-BB1gMc8v

    If that is the case, I see three potential ways that the last two spots in the competition are awarded:

    1. The champions of leagues ranked 11-12 (currently Scottish and Ukrainian leagues)
    2. The 5th placed team from leagues ranked 1-2 (currently PL and La Liga)
    3. Two additional places for qualifiers out of the league path-with the caveat that the 5th placed team from leagues 1-4 and the 4th place team from league 5 are now included in qualification

    There is also mention in the article about rethinking the format of the competition as well but I don't think that will ultimately happen.
     
  20. welshbairn

    welshbairn Member+

    Clachnacuddin
    Scotland
    Jul 31, 2019
  21. #946 feyenoordsoccerfan, May 20, 2021
    Last edited: May 20, 2021
    If the ESL suspects were betting on succes with the support of the FIFA/Infantino, these morons are suffering from dementia (not unlikely, given their age).
    FIFA has absolutely no clout when it comes to club level football. That's FA territory, backed by the governments, at least in the prime club football environment Europe.

    What many donot understand or are in denial of is that FIFA is nothing more than UEAF+. Without UEFA there's no FIFA.
     
  22. welshbairn

    welshbairn Member+

    Clachnacuddin
    Scotland
    Jul 31, 2019
    Think it's likely that Infantino is one of these arseholes who get into a position of responsibility and instead of thinking of themselves as custodians, think they have to make radical changes they can call their own. Some daft world club league in his case, the ESL being a step towards it. Happens all the time, arseholes trying to make their mark by ruining a business that's ticking over nicely, not doing too badly.
     
  23. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Amen.

    What do you think is fueling this recent "study" by FIFA to see if the World Cup should be played every 2 years?

    Horrendous idea, the players would be even more burnt out, it would tarnish the aura of the event ( making it to frequent would ruin how special it is ), and this is being done as a pure cash grab.
     
  24. He's trying to ruin the Euro's.
     

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