Agree with that, roll back the idea of "legacy" earning clubs unmerited entrance to the CL for a start, if some johnny-come-latelys like Atalanta should pump Juve down to scrapping for the Europa League for example. Not so sure about your money split though, clubs deserve more money if they attract more people through the turnstiles, TV gets more complicated..
Josh Korenke is really tone deaf.....SMH. JK : we asked ourselves, what is worse : ESL, or ESL without Arsenal? Also asked ourselves what do the fans want? The global fan wants AFC v Barca as often as possible. English fans want to see more big matches, but you still want your cold nights in Stoke. We got it wrong— REDaction Gooners (@REDactionAFC) April 22, 2021
I believe I may have quoted the wrong post. My point is that nobody, other than those 12...need the ESL. and the ones that do....that are facing financial ruin if they don’t get it...have hundreds of millions of dollars in fungible assets they can start selling this summer to fund their operations. Again....******** them.
I'm more referring to competitive balance, which is dictated largely by money. I was watching a video with this graphic today and I know it's from 5 or 6 years ago but my guess its close enough to the same at this time (but if any have a more updated chart, please provide). But lets examine this in light of salary caps. Look at the disparity in the television money, especially with the 2 teams in La Liga. How on earth do you overcome that without some sort of salary cap? I get the point about revenue sharing within the CL itself, but if these clubs are not bringing in the same (or close to the same) amount in TV revenue between their domestic competitors, then the tops clubs in each leagur can practically spend their way into the CL every year. A cap prevents teams from getting greedy and overspending. Yes, it protects owners from themselves, but also protects the game and the fans and provides balanced competition.
The thing about any business is that it is 'perceived' risk that matters. If a business has reason to believe that they will be bailed out, they will always get caught up in high risk strategies such as the arms race for players. We saw it in the last two major financial crises, and we are heading towards another one in the educational market today. In each case though, they saw that the risk was likely to be mitigated by a bailout. They were 'Too big to fail.' The best thing for soccer in the long run would be for a few of these big clubs to go into receivership. Others would likely have to take severe haircuts, but it would re-set the market with the understanding that you HAVE to manage responsibly. I think the same thing is needed in the USA sports market, but it will have to be an entire league to go through a crisis, and we should let it happen.
There is definitely some cognitive dissonance going on, profound misunderstandings about football in Europe. My big team is Falkirk, presently languishing in the 3rd tier in Scotland, since moving to Inverness I've started following Clachnacuddin in the Highland League as the obvious choice, Inverness Caledonian Thistle have been Falkirk's rivals in the past. In fact we got them demoted and their captain cried on camera, it was glorious! Anyway Falkirk have gained entrance to European football only once since 1876, won at home against the mighty Vaduz of Liechtenstein 1-0, lost 2-0 away in extra time in pouring rain but it was one of the best times of my life. No airport in Liechtenstein so we all arrived by different routes, would meet each other in railway junctions as we got closer and the numbers built up. Got side tracked a bit there.... P.S. Had already booked flights and hotels for the next game v Slovan Liberic, had a decent couple days in Prague though..
We need to shift merit solely from ratings towards productive clubs (meaning clubs that produce more players rather than the ones that achieve success after leeching off from those clubs due to unlimited money given by rich owners) Football needs to go back to roots and put more emphasis on homegrown players. If we go based on the number of players(aka. the main product) teams have grown. Dinamo Zagreb and Ajax stand on par if not higher than some of these ESL teams. But Zagreb is handicapped by factors like being from a small country, they have no way to keep these players and achieve success on their own even if the players they raise contribute to the huge chunk of that success for those superclubs. So - limit the transfer caps so those teams can keep at least some of the talent and give benefits to the academies/clubs that raise the kids who go on to become top-level players. Real Madrid might be the biggest leecher club in the world. No sympathy for them, Idc how much money El Clasico Generates, they've been destroying football principles for decades.
What I mentioned for PSG turns out to have been reality towards the ManCity state owner. They got a warning things could get very troubling for the United Arab Emirates in the UK. Boy oh boy, did this bunch of superleague cowboys underestimate the difference between a closed shop in the USA and the environment in which soccer in Europe takes place.
I will give you and @benficafan3 for getting this right . I did think these clubs had a stronger resolved and thought things out better . I still think something similar might happen in the future though .
Indeed. I've been for over a decade telling the UEFA simply should call their bluff with a CL format beneficial for all, not only for the greedy assholes and tell them to sign at the dots or take a hike. I've been ridiculed for that all those years, but now it turns out that all the political minefields and revenue minefields these clubs would run into became reality.
At least JP Morgan will be smiling, 8 million euro penalty for each club pulling out, so 80 million and counting for drawing up a few legal documents and promises to bankroll it if it ever happened.
You are totally wrong about that. In almost all the countries in Europe, national title is still huge.
I can't imagine such a country but I am being diplomatic. What I don't know I will not be talking about.
That dude has been so wrong in his comments, it is not even funny anymore. He keeps doubling down on the BS.
That ********ing guy......No doubt in my mind, he was informed on the ESL creation. 1385328571573587969 is not a valid tweet id
i can't speak for the spanish.. but i can speak for the italian perspective of it. still a majority of fans do not wish this to go through ever (myself included). the reason there is not the same opposition to it is that we do not see Uefa as a fair football administrative body. largely due to the farce that is FFP. The rules seem to change for teams when they want them too. Man City and Barcelona both immune to the rules, while Milan were banned from the europa league in 2019 for similar spending infractions.
Regarding the "UEFA competitions need Atalanta, Dinamo Zagreb, Galatasaray etc" quote, the point it misses is the Champions League has become quite stale watching the teams that would have joined the Super League beating the above named 5-0 en route to playing one another in the later stages every year. A parting of ways would have meant the Super League sides play sides they're better matched with week in week out, whilst also making the Champions League more competitive for those left behind. It would have leveled the playing field. Really think it was a missed opportunity and didn't need to be demonised the way it was.
Thanks. I get that. I know Europeans feel everything in their sporting models are perfect and nothing from the American side is worthwhile....but one of the greatest differentiators, and one that I think European leagues should adopt, is that the league itself is bigger than the teams. TV rights are evenly distributed. There is no financial windfall with winning a championship. Players get modest bonuses, but the teams themselves get nothing beyond the marketing value of calling themselves champions. The ultimate FFP. Imagine if the money associated with the champions league was distributed, via the federations, to all the clubs in their respective pyramids. Payouts from league television contracts the same. No, or only moderate, merit based payouts. I truly believe European club football would be better for it. Of course the clubs that massively benefit from the current situation, be it in European competition or within their leagues, would hate it. But every club on the outside of those elite would see a massive benefit. The money is there for all clubs to benefit...you lot just choose to play under rules that allow it to be consolidated at the top...by design. And then the top bitches about the inequities of the application of rules to the other top teams.