Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    This is stupid as hell o_O
     
  2. Well, the serious contributions are top performances, so nobody cares about that.
     
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  3. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I've been thinking about Europe Super League. If UEFA stick to their plan to ostracize players who play for those 12 clubs and forbid them to represent NT, England, Spain, Italy and France would be the biggest loser.

    How many England NT players from outside those top 6? How many Spain NT players from outside Real, Atletico and Barca? Hell even Spain NT players also quite numbers coming from EPL top 6. Italy definitely the worst, they don't have many players playing outside Serie A and most of them play for Juve, Inter and AC Milan.

    France with bulk of NT players playing outside France and incidentally for top 6 EPL, would be very much weaken as well.

    Which means, we might benefit a lot from this. Even Portugal best players also play for those 12 club. CR7 at Juventus, Bernardo Silva, Ruben Diaz, Joao Cancelo at City, Bruno Fernandes at MU, Diogo Jota at Liverpool, Joao Felix at Atletico.
     
  4. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    Why would Werner not be called? You mean he won't be part of the Euro squad?
    I think he is not going to be a starter for Germany but Loew definitely wants him in the squad.
     
  5. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This would belittle International football, at least the European Competition. Who cares who wins such a tourney? The EC and WC would rank lower than the Olympics if this will be realized. I doubt it, though.
     
  6. I guess the players will be free agents if the sl takes place. They signed for a club in the domestic league, not a sl. It's a major change in contracts.
    So the UEFA has announced a transferban for those clubs. Those players have to sign a new contract, but then automatically are risking a 10 years ban from that moment worldwide.
    Unless the sl clubs offer them a 10 year contract, I can see big problems for the clubs involved.
     
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  7. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I've read a few jokes about the Super League, like "prepare for the epic CL final between Burnley and Atalanta."
     
  8. Icke

    Icke Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Kölle, Germany
    Club:
    FC Köln
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I am finally out of this, already less and less interested in club football in the last years, I watch cycling now.
     
  9. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Would be more interesting watching different clubs compete, at least those still have a connection to their fans.
     
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  10. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Tonight Leeds players are wearing warm up shirts with the slogan “Earn it on the pitch. Football is for the fans” and have left them in the Liverpool dressing room too. :ROFLMAO:

    There is also a protest outside the stadium, and at Anfield.
     
  11. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I don't think Italy would be as affected as they would have in previous years. Our talent is quite spread out at the moment through Serie A (and we even have 3 players at PSG - Florenzi, Verratti, Moise Kean).

    assuming the exclusion of the ESL teams. we'd still have a competitive starting lineup of something like this:

    Meret (or Sirigu), Florenzi, Mancini, Acerbi, Spinazzola, Locatelli, Verratti, Zaniolo, Berardi, Immobile, Insigne

    theres other countries who would be left with a worse lineup due to this. I think England is the one most decimated.
     
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  12. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    I don't know much about cycling. Can you tell me what makes it an interesting sport? Watching other people pedal a bike looks boring as hell. Cycling doesn't look very appealing as a spectator sport. I could turn to tennis although the younger generation of players is not very good. I watched a couple NBA playoff matches last season and it does look like a very entertaining sport. Now I understand why it is so popular. That said, football is simply the best sport to me. It is going to be so hard to stop following it.
     
  13. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    The way I see it, football fans are very traditionalist, and if this Super League is going to profit from anyone it'd be the casual fans.

    Although I'm not sold on the Super League, it would be hypocritical of me to say that I'm opposed to it, as I am also a fan of the NBA, which is a closed competition as well.
     
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  14. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How about not Americanizing euro-footy? The worst of us are harming the sport…
     
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  15. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The UK government is getting involved, saying no action is off the table and they could push through emergency legislation to try and stop this. Things like a heavy windfall tax and restricting visas for players employed by Super League clubs are being mentioned by senior politicians. They are also talking about a reform in how English clubs are owned, ensuring fans have a say in the running of clubs, maybe even introducing something like the 50+1 system.

    Although I agree with some of these ideas, i find it funny that FIFA/UEFA were always against political interference in football, and yet on this they are happy for it to happen.
     
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  16. Icke

    Icke Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Kölle, Germany
    Club:
    FC Köln
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Cycling is a very popular sport in netherlands,belgium,france,spain,italy...
    I love the mountain stages,the fights one vs.one in the climbs,the team tactics, the mass sprints, it is a real physically hard sport,not comparable with soccer. If you are conditioned to sports where something is happening all the time like basketball,tennis or ice hockey, cycling is probably not the right thing for you,thats right
     
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  17. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Cycling has a major doping problem though.
     
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  18. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Actually doping is the latest in a long history of scandals surrounding cycling. Seriously, cycling and cheating seem to go hand in hand.
     
  19. Icke

    Icke Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Kölle, Germany
    Club:
    FC Köln
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You think soccer,b-ball or tennis doesn't?:)But Testing in cycling is the most effective and in recent years there were no big scandals
     
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  20. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Already expected for months now but Schalke have been officially relegated. They are the new HSV.

    Wonder if they'll be a yoyo club like Stuttgart or wallow around for a few years in 2BL like HSV, who have lost momentum this season and are currently in the playoff spot only right now
     
  21. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Dortmund getting closer to the CL spots after winning against Wolfsburg. Leverkusen also doing them a favour and taking care of Frankfurt
     
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  22. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I can't help but wonder what could have been if Favre had been rightfully sacked at the end of last season.
     
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  23. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    BVB should fired Favre from god knows when. It baffled me with Pochettino available, did it ever occurred BVB management to snatch Poch?
     
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  24. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    BVB will face RBL, Mainz and Leverkusen. Absolutely brutal fixtures especially since managed by Bo Svennson, Mainz in upward trajectory.
    I really want BVB to finish top 4, but I have big question mark over it
     
  25. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mainz actually face all 3 teams, Leipzig face both Dortmund and Wolfsburg. Wolfsburg’s other match is against Union, so I actually think the run ins are pretty similar.
     
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