I should clarify that the assignor may or may not send the referee's on-line game report, but the assignor writes up the reason for the red card. We have a significant percentage of our referees who are not comfortable writing or speaking in English. A referee who gives a red card is requested to call the assignor that evening, preferably on the way home.
That's interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if the assignor has to help them translate the report into English, or accepts reports written in another language to accommodate for that. If that is the case, then there should be a provision to accept soccer reports in other languages, especially Spanish.
I have told the Spanish speaking referees to write their game reports in Spanish. A number of the high school assignors, particularly in the larger associations, are native Spanish speakers themselves.
One of the many enlightened and helpful things our association does for us (and for itself) is providing report templates. Here's the one for DOGSO foul outside the PA: And here's the one for inside:
In Iowa, a red for DOGSO is a red. Each school can have three or fewer red cards to be elligible for the state tournament. Rules are rules.
I would limit it to 3 red cards for violent conduct, OFFINABUS, or serious foul play (not DOGSO) in a season. That way the intent of the rule would be satisfied (keep dirty teams out of the playoffs) while not penalizing teams unfairly for rules requiring a mandatory DQ in certain situations.
Normally, yes (at least in my area - I think some states do ad hoc crews). I've been on a varsity crew of five since 2014, two guys have been on it the whole time, one guy has done two years with us, and I'm going to be working with a new back judge this season. We sometimes butt heads, but it's really nice to build up years of rapport.
I've joined a new association as a transfer official, so I've worked varsity games for different crews. Still, I'm waiting to get assigned to a permanent crew next season. The one thing that gets my goat about working HS soccer is the dual system. Whoever invented it needs to have his sanity checked, because switching between being a CR and an AR leads to sub-par positions and guessing on calls. That said, I haven't had too many serious issues with the dual yet, because I've been able to keep up with play and be in decent enough position to make the calls I've needed to (and I'm lucky enough to work in a place where only JV matches use the dual system. Varsity in Northern VA uses DSC). Stopping the clock, funky substitution rules, and the other rules differences I can get used to. So far, working high school is like working good quality 17U club soccer, with better organized game administration, more disciplined players, and accountability for coaches. I'm hoping that I enjoy the rest of my season.
My main problem with the dual system is that you are never in the right position to make call especially for offside. To make an offside call correctly, you need to be even with that second-to-last-defender or the ball. In the dual system, you can not be in that position. I am sure that players get away with being offside more in the dual system than in the diagonal system.
If the defenders are deep try staying near the first attacker. Not an ultimate solution but helps a bit.
It amazes me how many refs don't understand that. Sure the second to last defender sets offside, but the first attacker is who you need to worry about. In many HS games that difference buys you some pretty good space.
That's what I try to do (Locate the first attacker, then decide if (s)he is ahead of the 2nd to last defender),when I'm working a dual game. To me, the dual and double dual systems are attempts to impose a basketball officiating mentality on soccer, that, IMO, is not appropriate.
A dual is a compromise on the number of officials needed to referee a HS game. Without it 75% of our matches either would have a solo or a Referee and a single AR. The reality is we (and I suspect most HS ref groups) are woefully short of the number of referees needed to cover the V matches on the books.
Your mileage may vary, but in my area, once the vaccine started coming out, more officials opted back in to work this spring. This means that we have enough to use 3 officials on every varsity game. What also helps is that the 2 JV officials work a 2nd game as the Varsity ARs, joined by the Center Referee. I've needed to work 3 days of games this week, but I'll wait to see what happens the rest of the season. VHSL also rolled back many of the COVID modifications they had previously planned to implement for soccer (eliminating the dropped ball, 3' apart in the wall, etc.), so the only differences now are meetings with only the head coach, people off the field wear masks, and the center referee only masks if he needs to talk to a player, card someone, or approach closer than 6 feet.
We didn’t have enough bodies before COVID. All that did was make it worse. We prioritize games and the best/most heated get 3. The others don’t. The bad games get 2 and they won’t be a very strong 2 at that. We service 22 or 23 schools and normally have 50 or so refs who are in the group. Even if they are all available (ha!) we can’t do full crews. This year we numbered mid 30’s. It’s not even close to enough. We had to tell schools we had no refs multiple times. Not a dual. None. Several games were done solo. I did a boys varsity game solo. We begged teams to move games off of the traditional Tuesday/Friday and at one point we played games Monday-Saturday for 2 plus weeks straight. And we still did duals most games.
Yep. That's what we live for. I still don't understand what the double dual reasoning is. And no, I do not buy the official line from you-know-who. Just do not. Heck, our chapter even said "we'll take the paycut and do our state youth soccer fees for u-17 games to get a DSC going". but no, we were shot down. Dual or double dual it is.
The way high school soccer is ran in this country does a disservice to both the sport's overall development in the country, as well as referee development. Same with college soccer.
In my area, this is not true. Virtually all games are DSC with no weird rules, except in Missouri we are supposed to use the old signals and have to wear funny jerseys. I am considering giving up USSF games and only doing HS because the HS refs know what they are doing, while the U-? refs don't, or don't exist (shortage). On the other hand, I will note that the USSF rule that keeps the Development Academy players off HS teams has really knocked the quality of HS games down. Rare anymore are the blazing HS matchups seen 5 or 8 or 10 years ago. Now its a bunch of wannabes that like to complain.
Back when I was in HS (shortly after the glaciers receded) the state HS rule was that if you played on a HS team, you couldn't play on a USYS league team. Or perhaps it was you could only be on a team with X players from your HS team, X being a rather small number. This limited the available players for HS; most good players wisely chose USYS leagues for the better opportunities. As I understood later versions of the rule, you couldn't play on another team during the HS season, including the pre-season allowed practice period. And a very low number (maybe 3) players could be on a USYS team at any time of the year that was coached by the HS coach, because that amounted to practice outside the allowed practice window.