England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

We work on the assumption that they are, until ruled out.

 

I still prefer Winks over Phillips.

 

Mings looks pretty much certain as the 3rd centre-back. As for the 4th, hard to say. I certainly wouldn't trust Coady in a 4 against anyone good. But neither would I trust Dier against anybody - and nobody else (Tarkowski, Konsa, Tomori, Keane etc) really seems in the frame.

The second RB could really be any of Trippier, TAA and James depending which side of the bed Gareth gets up on

I think he's itching to include Lingard, and as it stands, I think he'll go. I wouldn't take him, but I think he will.

At whose expense is the question?

I can really see it being Sancho as it stands, assuming Grealish is fit (and there must be some doubt at least)

Looks a straight shoot-out between Bellingham and JWP for the 4th midfield slot. Given JWP was said to be lined up to start v Poland, hard to say that he's currently behind Bellingham - but most people would clearly take Bellingham


The more you look at other opinions, you realise there really isn't any consensus about the last 5-6 places. Both these 2 have got Saka in, for example

 

Depending on whose fit I think Southgate is thinking of taking players like saka over a designated left back because he can play in about 5 positions

in an ideal world we take 4cbs and use a guy like Walker as a backup rb and potential third cb in a 343 if we use it

I would love to see tomori in the squad due to his pace and left foot as well as mings. Based on what I’ve seen this season, if Pickford magically comes back and Henderson is properly fit

Pickford
Henderson
Pope

James
Walker

shaw
Chillwell

stones
Maguire
Tomori
Mings

mount
Henderson
Phillips
Foden
Graelish
Lingard
Sterling
Sancho
Saka

kane
Dcl
Greenwood

Not a bad 23 for me, lots of players who can play multiple positions in midfield and across the wings and behind a striker

enough cbs and fullback cover to play 433/4231 or a 343

Maddison you could argue dserves a place or taa as he’s coming back into form and winks is a capable passer. Konsa is better than mings but obviously not left footed

tonnes of options for a change

 

Mark ogden is a total prick. His man utd bias is unreal. Laurens is a good pundit. Not as good as Craig burley or shaka hislop or Steve nicol

 

That's pretty much the squad I would go with except I would swap philips for Bellingham. Bellingham just has that extra x factor

 

Gawd imagine if he omits a talent like Bellingham whilst selecting Ward Prowse

 

thats another good call

Jude has somethi extra about his game in midfield

 

No Declan Rice ?

 

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Or Rashford

 

You'd have to think Bellingham has played himself into the squad with these two performances, proving he can excel in European football in knock out stages against such high quality opposition is a feather in his cap none of his competition have despite his young age.

JWP probably most at risk of dropping out for the final squad given the slump Southampton are having, crawling to the finish line. Though judging by the fact he was going to start against Poland he was presumably ahead of Phillips in the pecking order since the last friendlies.

 

Foden, who apparently should have gone on loan ,scoring in the champions league quarter final. Pep has managed him perfectly.

he’s honestly been one of city’s best players this season

 

I would take Bellingham. Hes been a revelation this season

 

Posted this July last year.

 

Bellingham has to start for me instead of one of the defensive midfielders. Rice, Bellingham, mount. Then foden kane grealish. These players have made themselves undroppable over recent months.

The main argument against Bellingham seems to be that he is just 17. He has proved he is very mature and is not phased at being thrown into big games, in fact if anything he rises to the occasion if anything.

 

I mean, he had just signed for £25m... Wasn't he mentioned as a monster talent in "No Hunger in Paradise" when he was 13?

 

It's still a fair leap from the Championship to Champions League quarter finals within a year at the age of 17. There's no guarantee he was going to progress at this rate.

 

Not hard to find old comments talking about his talent though, is it.

 

Nice work

 

It doesn't sit right with me, does anyone here think that Phillips for example is better than Bellingham? Bellingham is playing at a higher level and has more talent. I'm not sure why Phillips seems to have been fast tracked in to England, at the start of the season he was in straight away despite limited PL experience

 

yes he was, so was Wes Morgan, but the 2 injured players didn't get the same coverage