They Needed a Minivan but Got a Gio: Reyna at Nottingham Forest (Olf Borussia Dortmund)

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  1. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    I'd take it, if I was playing whomever won it in the quarterfinals (and I wasn't England taking penalties).
     
  2. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That's just cause you don't pay enough attention to my puns.

    As far as the folks discussing "playing in a dangerous manner" - there can't be contact (that's a regular foul) and it must prevent the other player from playing for fear of injury to you or them (hence the "high kick" being "dangerous" because the other player can't put a head or chest into the ball - or playing the ball on the group - other players stop so as not to kick you.)

    from LOTG: Playing in a dangerous manner: Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself ) and includes preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.A scissors or bicycle kick is permissible provided that it is not dangerous to an opponent
     
  4. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    How did he look?
     
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  5. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    Ugh. He wasn’t good or bad - he was just kinda “there.” That’s my biggest problem with Reyna for the past 6 months. When he gets on he field, he doesn’t really do anything to set him apart from any other player. It feels like BvB could replace him with any average Bundesliga player and they would get the same result at that position.
    And he still has that indifferent body language that irks me, but I don’t think he can help it. He and players like Havertz are the type that have a natural motion that looks lackadaisical.
    I still have high hopes for him, and he’s only 18. But he needs to show more. BvB gave him a new contract, and then he just appeared to fall off drastically. I’m still waiting to see the best Reyna
     
  6. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Reyna is a victim of his own early season success. Before the season, my idea of a "successful" season for him, that I posted here, was a full season of what he did last season, ie. mostly sub appearances, a few goals/assists, couple starts here or there based on injury and cup matches.

    That is effectively what he is now, and again, that should be considered a good season. He started off with a run of form that was in no way sustainable for an 18 year old in his first full professional season. Everyone got so excited, justifiably so, and then it became the expectation more or less, which was/is unfair.

    There should be no disappointment in the season for Reyna. The fact he is still in the lineup and getting real minutes despite not producing the counting stats show the manager(s) still value him highly. And as you said, the new contract said the same thing vis a vis the club.

    So good news all around I think, minus the pouty face/Duke basketball-level complaining.
     
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  7. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a pretty good result for Dortmund is it not?
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I think they would have preferred to have kept the 1-1... or even gotten the 2-2, but it's not the end of the world for sure.
     
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  9. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Patience with this one.
     
  10. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    It’s a good result considering how they’ve been playing in league matches. Also good given they got an away goal.
     
  11. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Better than 1-0, not as good as 1-1.

    On balance, Dortmond should be pleased. They're coming home with a decent shot at advancing.
     
  12. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    Agree with this. He’s seemed to just lack any sort of conviction in his game for a while. Dawdling on the ball with very few attempts at goal. Geez, at a certain point just dump a cross in when you have the Norwegian monster in the box.

    I was pleasantly surprised by Reyna in the friendlies. He definitely seemed to grab the bull by the horns more. I was fine with him ignoring Cannon’s multiple overlaps against Jamaica since he was at least driving forward to the box trying to make plays with a purpose. Want to see more of that with BVB.
     
  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Gio was surprisingly efficient today, in a role that involved quite a bit of defending. I wasn't expecting much, but he showed why he's still considered a Big Five prospect.
     
  14. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Reyna is in same situation as Musah.
     
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  15. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    And they both look much better on the NT as it's playing really poor opponents.
     
  16. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    They both are kind of overachieving in early season, and experienced a little bit of up-down. For 17-18 years old, even for 20-22 years old, that is very normal.
     
  17. yabo

    yabo Member+

    Jun 1, 2000
    Poolesville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm curious what's the sustainable component in your mind - physical or mental fatigue or a combination? What gets learned by the pros that allow them to be professional?
     
  18. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    I'm not a sports psychologist or a current/former professional athlete, so I'm speculating, but I would guess a combination of both. In Reyna's case, maybe more of the mental grind, since he seems like a pretty big/developed kid and hasn't dealt with any injuries to my knowledge.
     
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  19. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A CL match is a pretty high stakes environment for any 18 year old.Speaks well for what the club think of his mental fortitude.
    Didn't he miss time with a shoulder Injury ?
     
  20. RossD

    RossD Member+

    Aug 17, 2013
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    What are with the people freaking out about his current play? He's 18 and in his first full European season. The schedule is grueling, every game is against high level competiton, and there are multiple cup tournaments as well. It takes time for the body and mind to adjust and build up the resiliencey to the physical and mental stress. You can't know what the demand on your body and mind is until you do it. He now knows what it's like and will be better able to adjust. He's still a kid thousands of miles from his parents. Calm down. He's 18 and in another country on his own. Just adjusting to that takes a ton of resources.
     
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  21. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    I will not calm down.
     
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  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    We can calm down 20 years from now after the race has been run.

    I'd like to see Reyna start this Saturday at Stuttgart, planning to sub in once more v Man City on Wednesday. Time to get back on track.
     
  23. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Basketball players from college drafted into the NBA hit their "wall" about 2/3rds of the way trough their first season. Just a lot tougher to play more and against better players. They get used to it.
     
  24. yabo

    yabo Member+

    Jun 1, 2000
    Poolesville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can imagine a college freshman going thru the same cycle of doing well, missing family and friends, and then struggling to perform.
     
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  25. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sophomore slump is a thing ,no dpubt.
     
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