Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

If we're being honest based on his quality as a football player and current form Max Kruse should be in the German NT for the Euros.

 

For the non-German speakers (like me) the translation would be:

Ralf Rangnick cancels Schalke: "I would have liked to be involved(...). Unfortunately, due to the numerous imponderables within the club, I currently do not see myself in a position to take on sporting responsibility at S04." More in a moment on @SkySportNewsHD

 

With the current form of Goretzka, Kimmmich and Gundogan I can't see how Kroos could make it into the CM/DM. What kroos is really good at - the long balls - won't really happen in the opposition we're facing for the international break (I'm assuming that the teams will be mostly defensive playing for the counter). Perhaps someone could explain to me how Kroos would be used in this scenario.

 

Article on possible NT couch replacements:

https://www.getfootballnewsgermany....ld-succeed-joachim-low-as-germany-head-coach/

 

I disagree. Kimmich should be the RB and Kroos the CM. That's Germany's best team. The other fullback options all suck.

 

Kroos is past his best, Kimmich and Goretzka are great together in midfield for Bayern. On balance I would rather keep that club chemistry in midfield and have Klostermann at RB.

 

I have absolutely no love for this player but Toni Kroos is currently performing at an absolute world-class level for Real Madrid. Ilkay Gündogan is arguably having the best season of his career at City. Goretzka is also in good form and should be a good fit alongside the two in central midfield and Kimmich is just a lot better than Klostermann. Furthermore Kimmich has been playing RB in the most important games in recent years where he was excellent.

I have no doubt in my mind that we maximize our team's potential with Kimmich at RB unless Gündogan's and Kroos' form nosedives between now and the tournament.

 

He's actually having a really great season...statistically. It is the rest of the team that blows. I am not sure how this became a talking point because he might be one of the few reliable players that is consistently goo, game-in/game-out in RM right now.

Where if everyone getting this "he's past it" from? Watching the games?

 

Kimmich and Groetzka is a must in midfield, and as for kroos hes clearly not the player from previous years, his legs have gone . On current form Gundogan is performing at a ridiculously high level in possibly the best all round team in Europe, but I'm not sure I'd start with either kroos or gundo, we need speed and mobility in midfield which both lack hence pep plays gundo as more of a attacking midfielder rather than a 8 where he gets exposed.

 

We play kroos and gundogan in midfield together we will get run over like a stream train in midfield, neither have the physicality or the speed to recover lost possition hence piling the pressure on our already suspect back line

 

I think a lot depends on what Loew’s game plan is. Which style loew wants to play. I think the bad performance in the last few years is due to his half hearted approach. He didn’t go all the way to copy Pep’s possession football, nor go all the way to copy the popular high pressing football. He stuck in somewhere with the team transition. He wanted to play possession football in 2018 wc, but with players like Werner who is so bad at controlling the ball you are doomed to fail. Hence he started to play counter attack football to accommodate players such as Werner and Sane. But the counter attack football needs very defensive midfielders and high quality defenders. Both Kroos and Gundogan are not that kind of players and Germany hasn’t produced top top defenders since Hummel/Boateng. Hence they got hammered by Spain. So all in all, Loew hasn’t found a consistent game plan to suit the current mixed group of players. In my opinion, he needs to make up his mind, either full possession football like the current Man City team, this approach requires everyone in the team has high quality of ball retention skills, and he can’t use Werner anymore, I think Sane is slowly improving under Flick, so Sane can be used. Or all the way to opposite direction, simply copy Bayern’s high pressing game, with that, you probably need to let Kroos/Gundogan go, simply deploy the current Bayern midfield Muller, Gloska and Kimmich....but a half hearted approach probably won’t work.
To be fair, I think Tukel in Chelsea is trying the semi approach, but I yet to see it working as somehow the attack is still lacking and he uses 3 CBs. Maybe Germany should also use 3 center backs to compensate the lack of quality in defense and lack of physicality in midfield if Loew still want to use Kroos/Gundogan in midfield and fast paced forward such as Werner with the semi possession/pressing game plan

 

Not sure either I would put kroos on the bench

 

Could be an option as well

 

Yeahh it will be rough decision but loew will botch it and play kroos and kimmich , which is wrong - either play kimmich at RB or pair kimmich and Goretska

But kimmich and kroos don’t think that’s the best we can do

 

So with my analysis above, I think Germany probably should copy what Tukel is doing in Chelsea. 3CBs, 2 wingers, 3 free roaming attackers:

Attackers: Ganabry Haverts/muller/gloska Sane/Werner


midfielders: Kroos Gundogan

Wingers: glson Kimmich

back 3: rudiger boateng sule

it is debatable if Gundogan should be higher up as attacker or gloska should be in midfield instead of high up as attacker, or Kimmich should be in midfield and let klostermann as winger, I don’t know the answer, Loew should work it out

 

Great read ... only thing though i don’t think loew knows how to play the 3CB properly

 

Who is glson?? [emoji1787],

I have also said if he uses 3Cb then use kimmich as a wing back , but Jogi will never do that -
Hence don’t use that system .

The Bayern block would be great start ! With some additions . And plan B adding players like kroos Gundo and havertz

The midfield pairing will key to this tourney and I think it is a super tough decision we have 5 great players on that position and making use of only 2 of them would be waste .

 

Thanks for the compliment. Though I do think Loew knows how to use 3CBs, he used it in 2017 cofideration cup and it worked well. He is not a bad coach all in all. He has won the World Cup and brought us countless fond memories of humiliating old enemies such as Brazil, Argentina and England etc. We should be grateful to him even though he made some very bad decisions in later stages such as forcefully kicking out the Bayern trios

 

Possible thread name
“ Euros 2020/1 - The final countdown ! “


“ Euros twenty twenty won “


“ Jogis final act “

 

Sorry, that left winger in Atalanta in Italy, I don’t know how to spell his name

 

That’s true !!!! He did give us some great games !

But if he does go with 3CB I hope he could do something like

Gintner- Hummels- Rüdiger
Kimmich - kroos - Gundo - goretska
Gnabry - Werner - Sane

 

I would probably replace Hummel with boateng, and replace Werner with Haverts, I am definitely not a fan of Werner, not until he proves me wrong with some convincing performance either in national team or Chelsea team, I kind of blame him for the bad performance of national team in recent years. It is probably a bit harsh on him but not far from the truth