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  1. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    No lack of talent will win out.
     
  2. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    As much say as Ben had with these cheap owners. While I am quick to blame Kasper he is on a limited budget. So he has to swing for the fences as in the Olsen days. Grabbing every underachieving SA/CA player he can hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.
     
  3. usadcu

    usadcu Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    I hear a Mr. F. Adu is available, and wikipedia says he's only 31. :cool:
     
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  4. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who says he's underachieving? Wikipedia? Or have you watched him play lately?

    Also, if he does come here, it'll cost the team money either as a loan or as a transfer, and he'll be one of the higher paid players on the team (he made over $250k as a young DP his first stint). That's being cheap?

    Also, Hines-Ike is here because Losada wanted him. It's hard to say Losada has almost no say in player acquisition. I'm sure he's done more due diligence in scouting Rodriguez lately than any of us here on BigSoccer.
     
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  5. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
     
  6. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I remember that. I'm sure he led Pittsbugh in scoring the previous year and possibly the USL (they may have still been calling it the A-League back then).
     
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  7. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    Blazing Saddles is great in any context.
     
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  8. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
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    DC United
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    United States
    In this era of MLS spending, $250k is pretty cheap for an international attacker. Titi's value per Transfer Market is $3M. $3M isn't cheap by DC United standards but when you see FCC is dropping $13M on deals $3M is peanuts.
     
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  9. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the team spent $5M on Flores, and people are calling him a bust and want the team to move on from him already. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't with DC United fans.
     
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  10. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.
     
  11. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
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    What does Flores have to do with anything? We are talking about Titi. You asked if that was being cheap and I answered.
     
  12. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who knows. And I wasn't even drinking at the time.
     
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  13. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In other news, Nigel Robertha, still a DCU acquisition target, bagged a hat trick in a Bulgarian Cup game today. Incoming DCU assistant Nicolas Frutos visited Robertha in Bulgaria recently.

    Highlights from Robertha's hatty below.



     
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  14. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. Please. Pace, calm, and a free kick taker. Okay.
     
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  15. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    The system Losada intends to play emphasizes fitness over all. Heavy counter press, opportunisctic high press and simple passes into space with players running onto the ball. The system can be effective with only one or two highly skilled, technical players.

    When Leeds hired Marcelo Bielsa 2.5 years ago the fan base was excited until he said that he could win with all the same players who had previously finished just below mid table the previous two years. In year one they only added a striker and winger (Jack Harrision) and made the playoffs. In year 2, they added only another winger and finished 1st by 10 points. The system requires smart players who can/will work hard. Technical skills aren't as important and I think that offers up hope.

    The fitness part worries me as DCU has a track record of injuries and short pre seasons that don't get the team into shape.
     
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  16. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Set pieces!
     
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  17. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not talking about Hines-Ike underachieving he is a defender. However even us internet nuts know that 3 goals in 560 minutes for Bolivar is the very definition of underachieving. I don't have to see film to know that.


    Flores holds the ball too long and loses it, that is why we want him gone. He is a turnover machine who I have yet to see setup a goal for someone.
     
  18. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Lol he loses the ball because our attack is trash. Poor off the ball movement, not many forward options. Sometimes 3 defensive minded midfielders in the XI.

    That and our former manager didnt have a plan offensively.
     
  19. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Imagine receiving the ball and only Ola Kamara in front of you.

    Have to go back to 3 ambitionless midfielders (Felipe, Moreno and Canouse when played there)
     
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  20. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Flores was tied for the team lead in assists last year.

    And I was using Hines-Ike as evidence that Losada has a say on player acquisition. You're acting like Losada has no say.

    For underachieving players, since you posted under a discussion about Titi, I thought you were referencing him, not Bolivar.
     
  21. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
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    United States
    Between covid season, Ben Olsen and injuries Flores didn’t stand a chance last year.
    Pretty much everything that could have gone wrong did.
     
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  22. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still cautiously optimistic for this season. I'm interested in seeing how we play and if there is a plan. I will forgive a ton if we are working toward something and failing (see San Jose at the start with Almeyda - they lost 4-0, 5-1, etc. but you could tell they were working toward a style of play).

    The new coach wants players and is apparently getting them. Good sign. He brought an assistant with him so that further pushes Ashton away from tactics. If we get that striker I think we will be in a good position going into the season.
     
  23. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Bolivar is 20 and getting minutes with the first team. He's not "underachieving", if you want to apply the same standard to DCU players then Yow, Nyeman and Sorga are "underachieving" as well. Most players are not Pele or Messi -- ever -- and certainly not when they are young. One of, or all off Yow, Nyeman and Bolivar may not pan out. That's soccer, no different than "prospects" in baseball, hockey, etc. The Gretzky's, Ovechkin's, Crosby's of this world are rare cases. Hell, Max Scherzer wasn't special when very young and Randy Johnson was just a gangly guy with a supersonic heater when young. Nolan Ryan was barely a .500 pitcher for the Mets. Willie Mays was something like 0 for 21 when he came up in 1951. DCU has a coach who is willing to try things, let's see what happens.
     
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  24. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    The roster is coming along nicely for a 14th place finish In the eastern conference.
     
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  25. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001


    Thx,

    Jay!
     
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