I see four USL teams and two MLS reserve teams playing in the USL have folded in the past year. Odd that those that got their knickers in a twist about Bury and Macclesfield have been so quiet about that.
I wonder how nobody noticed the error in this post. When every match ends in a draw there are 38 matches and 20 clubs that each gets 1 point a match. So the calculation should be 38 points x 20 clubs = 760 points. Trust is good, checking is better.
It sucks, but those pointing out Bury and Macclesfield are responding to the assertion that teams don't fold in a P/R system. There's no such assertion about USL. Reserve teams don't fold, they're just reabsorbed and redeployed (such as the semi-official reserve league that will be starting soon, according to reports). Its hardly the same as the USL teams or Bury/Macclesfield.
I’m not going to say that reserves teams are the same as independent teams from a fan or league perspective, but a club stopping a reserves team has the same effect on player opportunities as a club folding. Maybe worse, since they’re theoretically on stronger financial footing.
The assertion of some on here has been that pro/rel introduces instabilities not present in closed leagues. At the very least, this is hardly evidence that that is the case. It’s not completely the same and that’s why I listed them separately.
But Montreal and Vancouver didn't field B teams to give job opportunities to players. They fielded them to develop players for the first team. If they weren't developing first team players then there was no point in fielding them.
I’m not sure any team exists to create job opportunities, but that doesn’t change the fact that their mere existence provides them.
False, but nice try. The counterpoint <--- is in showing that clubs folding is not inherent to, nor a product of a league being closed (in of itself). It is a completely separate point from p/r introducing instabilities not present in closed leagues. Which non reserve teams? Reno St Louis Who else? That's only two.
The only NISA team currently on hiatus is Cosmos. Only 2 clubs have folded in NISA, and that was in 2019 during their introductory “fall showcase”. Neither should really have been allowed to participate in the first place, but NISA is fundamentally an open league (although I think not so open as to allow another club in that would fold after one game).
I'd expect a high turnover of teams in the first few years after formation as the league tries to expand and admits teams that are ill-equipped. CPL will do a better job with its single-entity model (even though it claims it's not a single-entity).
While CPL differs from MLS in that the club contracts are owned by the teams, they currently utilize the same single entity structure; the CSB (Canadian Soccer Business) is to CPL what SUM (Soccer United Marketing) is to MLS. This single entity structure could be expanded to include every single club in the soccer pyramid. https://aftn.ca/dare-to-dream-canad...ingle-entity-and-a-canadian-football-pyramid/
And of course a number (4 or 5?) NASL teams have folded in the last five years. All in all it sounds like more folded teams in a few years than current or ex Football League teams have folded in half a century. Again, you can hardly point to US leagues as evidence that pro/rel leagues introduce instability not present in a set of closed leagues.
Yeah, I’m not super sure that that article is accurate. I also ran across that when I was checking out your claim, but I think they’ve conflated the SUM/MLS arrangement with single entity. There’s nothing that appears that CPL is actually single entity, just that they have a marketing subsidiary. It looks like the clubs are individual entities that manage their own player contracts separately, etc. I have also seen claims that CPL negotiated a kit deal and media rights as “single entity” but that just means that the people saying it don’t understand what they’re talking about.
You're missing my point, which is that the exponentially higher rate of failure in US closed professional soccer leagues means that those leagues cannot be used as evidence that pro/rel leagues introduce instability not present in closed leagues. Of course, that doesn't mean that some of the US failures aren't due to it being a "fledgling" business, but that's not what I posited. Now if the level of failure in US closed professional soccer leagues was roughly similar to what we see in England then, based on that "fledgling business" argument, you could use it as evidence of pro/rel introducing instability. But that's simply not even remotely the case.
After today's games, 8 points ahead of Rotherham with Rotherham having one game in hand and 14 left to play. Again, the likelihood is Blackburn won't be relegated, but this is why you just can't say they "don't have to concern themselves about relegation".
Indeed... it's just lazy journalism. They see a team in mid table and think they can't go down without actually looking closer at the points differential.
3 months after winning the CSL, and a year after the women's club won the CSL the holding company (Suning Group) stated they were moving away from non-retail businesses. They listed the club for ONE CENT (but taking on the club's debts) ... https://www.scmp.com/sport/football...suning-call-time-chinese-champions-jiangsu-fc Except for the part where it's the SPORT, not the model where you see it happening. Except yes, pro/rel by nature of its mechanics does introduce instability not present in closed leagues. Oh, still waiting for those other USL teams you say folded in the last year. --------------------- Fun facts about the bottom two clubs currently: Newly promoted West Brom is on pace to have a 24pt -49gd season which would land them 7th worst all time in the Prem. 2nd year club SheffU is on pace to have a 20pt -39gd season which would land them 6th worst all time in the Prem.
It's fascinating how the normal culprit makes statements without even an iota of facts to back them up.
Next up, ice hockey. These entire leagues have ceased operation in the last 15 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_American_Hockey_League_(2008–2011) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Hockey_League https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Professional_Hockey_League_(2008–09) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Ontario_Senior_Hockey_League https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Professional_Hockey_League_(2008–09) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_Hockey_League https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Eastern_Hockey_League
The Hudson Valley Bears only missed the playoffs by 54 points during their one and only season. Probably tanked for draft picks.