BORUSSIA MONCHENGLADBACH & THE CL

Discussion in 'Borussia Moenchengladbach' started by HANS-GUNTER BRUNS, Oct 8, 2020.

  1. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    not sure if I already posted this before years ago but I have one for you from the same series, too:
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  2. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Monsterous massive...Thank you my friend...BRUNS photo made my day and night!:rolleyes:;)
     
  3. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now both my teams are in their respective Champions Leagues!
     
  4. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    congrats, an astonishingly undisputed win! couldn't stay awake but I guess I'll take a re-live look this evening
    so COVID-absent players didn't stop you... hard-lockdown finally has come over here (well from Wednesday on, so today and tomorrow everybody can get his christmas-haircut... and a shower of useless gifts... it's the consequence of inconsequence... again); until presumably 10th of January the whole thing... and Bundesliga seems to proceed... winterbreak lasts from christmas to January 2nd
     
  5. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    yuck!
    of all things we get this investor-toy which shouldn't be in this competition in the first place... but they are thanks to CAS & UEFA
    the ones who ridicule the idea of financial fairplay because that's how they are
    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...er-city-ban-from-champions-league-europe-uefa
    yuck!

    the only good thing: they don't seem to be on their peak right now, especially in defence

    they are trying soooo desperately to win CL for many many many seasons...
    let's make them wait even longer...
     
  6. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I know am a bit behind...but once again we fruit cake Guardiola and his 11
    Another giant with huge deep pockets that we tied to the outside of the UK..
    MC seem to be out of shape and off their game.. but still, we would not be fighting against just a football team. We would have many obstacles against us
    Am not sure if we could have been drawn against Porto or Lazio , but those would have been opponents!

    :confused::eek::whistling::whistling::speechless::speechless::ninja::ninja::devilish::devilish:
     
  7. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    nope, only the five teams I mentioned above could have benn drawn against us
    we clearly had Real on the brink at home but should have finished the job to win the group
    interesting: after decades we finally get a last-16-draw in CL but - except for some shrugging 'not t-h-e-m again!'-remarks - at this day EVERBODY is solely talking about Favre being sacked... some kind of chain reaction is expected... I'm not feeling well... at least Terzic won his first match---

    anyway: we have to get our shit together against Shitty (sorry for that bad phrase ;-) ... especially the defending (attitude) of the WHOLE team is not on last seasons level...
     
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  8. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    I finally watched it... I wanted to watch at least one full MLS match this season ;-)
    and I heard you even get a new stadium... not that bad for a franchise which was rumored to be on the move not long ago

    as for Borussia and what CL means to us:
    in march the club faced a 50M-loss (worst case scenario) in '20, currently Borussia is down to less than 20M...

    if this situation drags on much longer the first clubs in Europe (especially clubs with high running expenses but no CL-soccer) are going down quite soon; the economical situation in prof. soccer is more serious than media-coverage makes us believe I suppose
     
  9. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is we'll be back to "normal" attendance by June or July. I am hoping it will be safe to go to the first game in the new Crew Stadium then (supposed to open in in July--we have season tickets). I am not expecting to go to any ice hockey in the new season (we have a quarter season pack for the Blue Jackets and they owe us one or two games for last season too). We did go to one reduced attendance Crew game in October and could have gone to the final, but we are staying home for now--even skipping Thanksgiving and Christmas at Mrs KG's family. We're too close to getting a vaccine to take chances.

    Teams will fail, though. Wattenscheid and Erfurt already have, and Kaiserslautern filed for bankruptcy in the summer. I think Schalke is a fair bet too.
     
  10. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    there is a new vivid mutation out in good old infected Europe; Brits found it, guess the others already have it too

    Schalke is with more than 200M in debt... despite of Gazprom, despite of the big bad butcher... seems he never donated he just lent... at high interest rates...
    what happened there the last months is a clear case of 'reality surpasses even the wildest fantasies"
    they have an economical crisis, a leaderships crisis, a coaching crisis, a squad-planning crisis, an image crisis (with a lot of facets), a performing crisis, a disciplinary crisis, an attitude crisis and EVEN MORE... all at the SAME TIME!
    they now have two ex-coaches on their pay roll and Huub 'The Growler' Stevens stepped down from the board and put his fancy tracksuit on again...
    they desperately had to get a guarantee from the federal state and a lot of people are asking the politicians why an economical shit job year after year is rewarded with securities like that... and even some of their own fans remark that they should look at Gladbach to learn how a club is run properly...
     
  11. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    the baby-blues are winning game after game after game...
     
  12. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    14 competitive matches in '21
    14 wins
    pffffffffff, exactly our collar size...

    this CL-round of 16 for me feels:
    - fake because we drew this remotely controlled City Football Group Holding Company A_G_A_I_N
    - superfake because we can't use the advantage of having 'living' soccer enthusiasts in our stadium (instead of lame ones in theirs)
    - megafake because we now even have to go to Budapest to play them
    pleasant anticipation is really suffering...
     
  13. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    we have come a long way (our opponent also did but on their way they have sold their soul – something they certainly had back then)
    I quite well recollect the 2.Bundesliga-matches...
    now it‘s round of 16 at the ‚elite‘ and unfortunately all this catches us on the wrong foot (for more than one reason)
    last CL-season we wondered that even at this high-density CL-level some teams look really bad against others and this continued this CL-season: Lazio was totally chanceless against Bayern yesterday f.e.
    not the best prospects for us but then again: the more danger, the more honor ;-)

    NEUHAUS: „We also know that if we win games, everything will stay within limits, but if we lose games the subject [Rose] will come up again and again. We claim to counteract the whole thing with successful games.“ … „We are professional enough as a team that we won't let it get close to us“

    the man in charge says we can only win (because everbody expects us to lose… clearly)

    WENDT: „In any case my head is clear, a defeat like the one against Mainz always hurts but that's behind us now. The Champions League now continues - and the nice thing is that we quickly have the opportunity to correct things again. English weeks are great for us - less training, more playing. It's always fun. We look forward to the weeks ahead. We have to see this as a chance to play great games.“
    “They have world class players in every position. That's what you want as a player. We train here every day and we play soccer to be as successful as possible. The chance to play against Manchester City in a great tournament like the Champions League - that's just fun."


    please note: Vikings don‘t know fear, they just know fun!
    well, grey is all theory (and ambition), the truth lies on the field...

    SZ has done the maths: 25 City-matches without a defeat…. and just 7 goals against… which means: every 5:21 hours their opponents score… the problem is: tomorrow, UEFA is sticking to the established 90min playing time-rule...

    Pepchester also have Jesus up front… seems only GOD can help us ;-)
     
  14. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    KICKER expects a back three with Zak
    I r-ea-l-l-y hope they are wrong, Zak is a shadow of his former self and back three usually doesn't work for us
    and where is Tikus, man in charge?
    now it's time to be strong ;-)
    the blanket (to pull over my head) is ready...
    I may need some time in rehab after the match...
     
  15. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    the difference in quality was obvious, but thank god it never got embarassing
    neither the blanket nor the smelling salt came into action
    Borussia showed that our appearance in CL wasn't a coincidence

    I think we defended very well (KICKER was wrong about back three) but these two typical city balls from the half field killed us: both Neuhaus and the man in charge pointed out that the team knew about that & has explicitly spoken about how to defend it... but it didn't work all the time (it's like Robben: everybody knew what he was going to do but very often he nevertheless managed to do it...)
    we also lost too much balls in midfield and at the rare occasion that space opened up in City's half we either lacked the necessary swift of action or the accuracy (or both)
    much as I dislike City I also have to admit that their soccer is state of the art (over the years some people claimed that Pep has lost it, well, they are plain wrong)
    it's a machine (or an orchestra): not only every cog intermeshes perfectly with the next one: the whole thing is also spinning very fast!
    ball control and control of space is nearly perfect (Pep himself admitted he never would have thought this could go on for so very long)... this is only possible if you have the money to buy the right coach, the money to buy the quality and the money to keep the core of the team together for a very long time (most of the teams, even in CL, don't have this option)

    overall and given the circumstances we are in I'm good, we didn't opt for destructive soccer (still would have liked to witness a little more nastiness) and indeed showed some 'style'

    unfortunately we are now tired and have to play L'zig at the weekend... a team that is strong, not tired at all and smelling the chance to win the championship...
    and then it's the yellow plague again midweek... the times, they aren't easy....
     
  16. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I were the coach, I'd put out subs vs Leipzig. The German Cup is the main chance to win a trophy this season. At this stage, that's the place to focus.
     
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  17. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Did somebody insured us Rose is ethical and will give his best before he leaves for the yellow ass wipes????
     
  18. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We looked weak yes and we looked out of sync true....but everybody here is forgetting this crippled unit had 4 clear chances in front of M SHITeeeee.
    There is nothing to lose anymore in the second leg...would it be a bad idea to use more offensive players against MC??
     
  19. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    #69 Bananenflanke, Feb 27, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2021
    some so called 'experts' in the media did, club officials did and some smartass here in the forum also did, can't remember who, there are so many active forum members ;-)

    honestly, without the Rose-turmoil: would you have expected a win by a huge margin?
    I even wouldn't if Borussia would have played them in November (when we were in much better and Pepchester in much lesser shape), but I guess we could have at least given them a hard time...

    why should the man in charge not give his best?
    - his reputation in soccer-germany would really suffer if not... also a cup win brings respect, defeats do not... like most of us Rose is vain
    - his standing at the Zecken-supporters would be severely dented (and if Terzic's season finish will be great, the fans will immediately start to moan:
    'what do we need this guy for?' & 'Terzic is one of us and this new guy is a sucker who easily opts for not finishing his job!'
    - he's getting premiums for league wins and most likely a huge one for the cup... seems money is important to him, that's one of the reasons why he left
    seems he doesn't even need to be 'ethical' ... it's just a matter of common sense for him to give his best (same for the team by the way... it's them who lose premiums, who lose the opportunity to play international club-soccer next season and the opportunity to get a bigger contract elsewhere if they do not give their best)

    didn't find us weak, but hesitant and harmless in offense (then again I heard Pep City in total had only eight shots on their goal in the group-phase, sounds hard to imagine but didn't check)
    certainly a good idea to risk more, I'm sure they'll try and with a huge amount of match-luck and gross underestimation from their side there might be a tiny tiny chance... ;-)
    but I wrote this after Hinrunde: our style of play has not progressed and in offense only Stindl is doing better than last season, Embolo and Herrmann are looking bad, Thuram & Plea are looking not good and therefore??? (I'm not sure!) the man in charge is fielding a more defensive team for quite some time now (even if he has the options)

    like Mr.Gilbert above I don't expect anything today (Lainer and most likely Kramer & Hofmann are out bec. of injuries + some add. changes), maybe they should rest a little but on thursday there cannot be any excuses...
     
  20. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The good thing about us Gladbacher's is that we are never on board or off-board due to the lack/influx of wins & cups!!!:D
    But i have to really think hard..very hard...when was the last time we had so much success in a season and identified with very strong effective performance and body language on the pitch up to the end phase..and suddenly dipped in the lowest of lowes ???? If am wrong correct me, please.
    There is something really bad going on with this team and the rose departure ignited it and whatever the rest is also created this crumbling pillar called BMG
    :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::sick::sick::unsure::unsure::speechless::speechless::(:(:sick::sick:
     
  21. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    I guess it was Cruyff who said that different people have many different opinions about soccer (and it's thousands of aspects) and all of them may have a point... so I don't want to correct you, just my point of view:

    the results since the turmoil aren't good, that's for sure!
    yes, thinking that the turmoil means nothing is naive
    but if I compare (half)seasons and make the cut BEFORE the turmoil (which is after Hinrunde), what do I see???
    our last season (results, style of play, body language, scoring -look at the stats of Plea and Thuram- and many more: ) was much better than this one!
    the shit-performances at home against teams which are below us 'on paper' started with matchday 2 (our first home match)
    conceding goals at the end?: old story!
    I also looked at some stats (Hinrunde) and sometimes gaped: 1on1s, mileage, etc ... most of all sprints!... in comparison nearly all of them are not looking good!
    the closer I looked the more it seemed that I have overlooked some 'issues' in the last months and most likely got blinded by the CL-results and the wins vs. Bayern, D'mund and L'zig...
    there is a slight but significant downtrend in the long run (months), this all started way before Rosenmonday...

    anyway, last bullet for the man in charge today!
    (CL-qualification and CL-roundof 16 aren't totally gone but the coach can only use a squirt gun for both)
     
  22. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well in that case...under the last several establishments...we have mostly gone down the drain towards the end...the phase that in reality separates the men from the boys...yes i am upset about how and why the rose bomb went off the way it did...but we shall never know...but i have said this many times during a season in the past decade on this board...depth, coaching, equipment...it all plays a role yes...but end of the day the players have to really go for it..eyes on the prize so to speak...we forget how players also like to showcase their own skills in order to move up to clubs that pay them higher salaries...when coaches can look out for themselves..why should our layers put in that extra mile or 2??? Those were the days when the likes of BRUNS, HANNES..SIMONSEN ETC used to fight till the last drop for the Diamond...man this team right now is a break-time/breather of sorts for any team that lines up against us....we are getting more and more terrible with each game...too many mistakes, the lack of running...very abysmal pressing...and a lack of desire to give everything on the bitch!

    Man this club..lol
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::speechless::sick:
     
  23. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ok guys
    Back in the day...some of you that remember i had a gift and some of my calls were Bang On...actually more than some
    So am giving our Panzerwaffe one last one for the books

    So please remember this and you heard it first here

    Manchester City 1-3 Borussia Monchengladbach

    :ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja:
    :devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish:
    :alien::alien::alien::alien::alien::alien:
    :ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja:
     
  24. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But Naz, that was before VAR...;);):D:ROFLMAO:
     
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  25. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well said, Ken
    It's a sad situation when only 20 min into the game you want it to end at 2-0 b/c you can easily see and feel that the opponent can finish the game with 4-6 or 7 goals in full 90 min's :confused:
    For some reason, i think Pep is an undercover Gladbach fan b/c they could drive it home another few times.
    And talk about that "Hammer "by KDB o_Oo_Oo_O it was a cruise missile...but all that have had the pleasure to play know that kind of strike also needs some luck ( Unless your name is Luthar)..but my hat off to MC...they displayed what's it like to demonstrate the " walk in the park" situation:speechless::speechless::speechless:
    All that being said...i just hate predictable players and squads....squads that are packed with superstars...not my cup of tea:mad::(:confused::sick:
    Also any comments lads about our mental state?? Yes the build-up to the first goal...anyone??? Hello
    Yes our captain Lars..a guy that is expereinced strong and plays very physical football...pretty much handed over the ball to KDB without even his presence being felt... the same thing happened in the "luftcampf "with FCA in the build-up to their 1st goal :whistling::eek::sneaky::mad::ninja::sick::(
     

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