The Red Baron: Josh Sargent at Norwich City

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    That Bremen-Schalke promises to be craptastic.
     
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  2. mace

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    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think relegation battling Schalke will be focused and bring it. It could actually end up being a good game! But, I am aware I’m setting myself up for disappointment here...
     
  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's likely to be a fun game, not a good one.
     
  4. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Not understanding German, was that last sentence sarcastic? Like "finally he scored, now the media can shut up and consider him a good striker", implying all the criticism of him has been unfounded?

    Only somewhat related, but kohfeldt has really done well this year. Has the same team as last year more or less, probably worse talent this season, and has them in 12th place, well clear of relegation with schalke up next. He gets slammed here often, and the team is a chore to watch, but he needs to get some credit. The D is very good, they grab a bunch of draws and a win here and there. That's enough.

    From my famed eye test, the team has zero talent. So I don't think last season was the squad underachieving as much as this season they are exceeding expectations.
     
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  5. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ireland Republic
    Almost certainly yes. He's been on record praising Josh for his all-round contribution at various points in the season, and his body language when Josh threw a bit of a stop when he was subbed off was very positive: "Josh, you've done well. I'm happy with your performance but you were looking a bit tired so I subbed you" was the message.


    He's actually done pretty well in three of the four seasons he's been head coach. He took over at the end of October in 2017-18, with the team rooted to second-bottom of the BL, and steered them to 11th place and 8th place in 20-18-19 the next season when they never looked in any danger of dropping into a relegation struggle. Last season was dreadful, but they're looking good now in terms of survival, even if the football is still grueling fare.

    They're 6 points clear of the playoff place with a +13 GD and only 1 point off 10th with Schalke and Bielefeld next. Get 4 points from those two games and they're on 25 points with 13 games to go. 35 points has been enough for automatic survival in 8 or 9 of the last 11 seasons and the playoff slot, which the BL1 side nearly always wins, in 9 of those 11.

    If you'd offered that to the fans at the start of any season since Thomas Schaf left, they'd have said "danke schon" and opened a bottle of champagne.
     
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  6. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Transfermarkt shows Josh has 8 league goals in 55 matches, half of those goals came last season. Let's hope he can score more than two goals in the remaining three months.
     
  7. mace

    mace Member+

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    United States
    Somewhere I saw that most of goals are when he comes on a sub. And 3 or 4 are against Hertha. And of course, Hertha tends to fire their manager after playing Bremen (it was mentioned in the broadcast last weekend, and we saw how that turned out...)
     
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  8. BostonRed

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  9. ttrevett

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  10. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
  11. dspence2311

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    Oct 14, 2007
    If you were to play a drinking game involving every shockingly bad first touch by Schalke, you’d be dead from alcohol poisoning before halftime.
     
  12. Pegasus

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    And yet Bremen is even worse it seems to me. The left back is particularly bad at everything. Even dribbled a ball out of bounds for no reason and I'm not sure he's completed a pass yet. No wonder teams are going after MLS outside backs.
     
  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Josh has run a lot the first half. That's the nicest I can be.
     
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  14. dspence2311

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    Oct 14, 2007
    Agreed. Terrible.
     
  15. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    To blame either of these two Americans for not scoring enough is absurd when you watch these teams play.
     
  16. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
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    Jul 3, 2004
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    Atlanta Silverbacks
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    Oh Sargent... get that on frame.
     
  17. lilking24

    lilking24 Member

    Jul 23, 2006
    Irvine, CA
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    Really unimpressed by Josh. He works hard but his finishing and technique are poor.
     
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  18. yurch10

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    Feb 13, 2004
    Certainly not his best today. I didn't have a good feed, but he didn't seem much involved. Calling his technique poor after last week is a bit odd, though.

    Off in the 60th, and I'm out with him.
     
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  19. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
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    bremen is just dire. you cant argue against taking sarge off...until you see osaka come on. its just a neverending whos-not-gonna-score roulette.
     
  20. Eleven Bravo

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    Jul 3, 2004
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    Atlanta Silverbacks
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    Neither team knows how to play to their center forwards nor know how to counter attack. Both play that slow build up from the back and that’s just not their game.
     
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  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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    Let's be honest: today Sarge and Hoppe showed they are one of the reasons their clubs suck.
     
  22. The Irish Rover

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    The team that can't score against the team that can't score or defend.

    I'm surprised anyone got on the scoresheet at all.
     
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  23. gruenweiss87

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    Werder Bremen
    Germany
    Sep 9, 2018
    Bremen with a strong second half after a horribly passive first. In the end, we should have gotten the win with 15 to 6 shots on goal. All young players, incl. Sargent, really struggled today. Agu (seemed injured after a crash) and Mbom should have been taken off even earlier and Sargent at the half in my opinion.

    Bremen was really dominant with Möhwald and Rashica and I think having those two back from injury will really help the forwards.

    Next game is the cup game against Fürth where I think Sargent will start on the bench if Selke is fit on time.
     
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  24. Eleven Bravo

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    Maybe, maybe so. How much better would Haland or Lewandowski make this team? Sure we know they would be an improvement but they sure as hell wouldn’t be scoring 9 games in a row either.
     
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  25. Eleven Bravo

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    Jul 3, 2004
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    Atlanta Silverbacks
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    Watch Leipzig vs Leverkusen. Watch how both teams can play their attackers into space. Even though the game 0-0 still, you can see that the teams are so much more dynamic than Bremen and Schalke.

    Throughout the whole game, I don’t think neither Bremen or Schalke played one ball into space for their attackers. You can’t expect much to play from center forwards in that kind of system.
     
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