Alert: Covid-19 and our favorite team

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  1. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Good news of course with the new 452R variant showing up in Santa Clara County -- seems to be highly contagious and may be vaccine-resistant.
     
  2. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I've long maintained that Covid is going to be with us for the foreseeable future - much like influenza - with a myriad of mutations and forms that will require at least annual vaccinations.
     
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  3. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I managed to get a vax appointment at the end of January. Got my fingers crossed it really happens...
     
  4. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I am due to get mine at Kaiser tomorrow. A friend of mine got hers at Kaiser last Monday. She received the Pfizer vaccine and was then given a return appt for injection #2 about 18 days later.
     
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  5. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    My mom and my parents-in-law all got vaccinated today. My mom's return appointment (Palo Alto Med Center) is four weeks from now. My in-laws are in Salt Lake, and they were able to get vaccinated earlier than their friends (though they are >65) because she volunteers for Meals on Wheels. Why does it feel as though everyone is more organized than California?
     
  6. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    My brother is over 65 and volunteers to drive and deliver blood for the Red Cross. He was given a vaccine shot along with health care workers for that reason. I'm getting mine tomorrow based on age (69 years old).
     
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  7. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Because Utah has a population about half that of the Bay Area. The logistics are much less complicated. Also, the distribution of doses between states has been haphazard, uncoordinated, and utterly chaotic. The touted "stockpile" did not exist, and this is the last breath of hot air and vaporware from the former administration. Of course, a lot of blame also goes to the state for an apparent inability to deal with anything (EDD, anybody?) that is not steady-state. This is precisely why CA needs to be more than one state.
     
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  8. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
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  9. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This NPR article is even more ominous. Even though 76% of Manaus were infected by Oct-2020, instead of achieving herd immunity, it appears people are getting reinfected with a new variant (different from the UK variant) that, like in the UK, is more deadly than the one the vaccines are based on. The new Manaus variant appears to be 50% resistant to the plasma serum treatment.

    The NPR article also links to a Jan-15-2021 Science article which tracked the initial Manaus infections and notes that the half-life for antibodies was 106 days.
     
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  10. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The vaccine confers greater immunity than the disease itself. And the vaccine does seem to manage the two scariest new variants -- the UK and South African one (similar but not the same),

    The thing is...speed is really important with vaccinating. The longer it takes, the more opportunities for the virus to mutate beyond the scope of the vaccine.
     
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  11. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    California is not alone in the piss poor organization department. Washington State is right there with you. I expected Governor Inslee to be more on top of it, and he’s been our Guv right along.

    Oh and good news bad news. The bad news first: I went to the state website and tried to sign up for a vaccine. You answer a bunch of questions on an “honor” basis, though I think they could check when you show for your appointment. In any case, I did not get an appointment for a vaccine, though I am on their waiting list and they’ll contact me when it’s my turn. The good news about this is that I don’t qualify for the vaccine because I’m too young and healthy!! Hey @Replikait! The State of Washington says that I’m officially YOUNG!! Ha, ha!!

    Go Quakesfans!!
    I hope everyone of you is healthy, safe, and as happy as can be. Even @JazzyJ. ;)

    - Mark
     
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  12. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Gee, thanks!
     
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  13. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I suppose it is possible that the State of Washington sees you as low-priority because it figures that your average blood alcohol level is high enough to destroy any variant COVID-19 can throw at you! Especially on days the Earthquakes are playing. :D
     
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  14. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Brazil variant already showed up in Germany. Does the USA still have a travel ban against Brazil? Maybe we need one...
     
  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Trump lifted the ban on Brazil and some other countries on 1/18/21. Biden reinstated them.
     
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  16. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    There are not truly and have never been any "bans" -- the restrictions have been full of holes, enough to let a tiny virus slip through -- thousands of times.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-other-countries.html

    So, for example, Slovenia and Hungary are on the list; Croatia, which borders both, is not. Brazil is on the list, but none of the dozen or so countries that border it. Too, the only restrictions are on people who don't have a right to be in the United States. I know people who have dual citizenship/multiple passports who are traveling all over the place.

    Travelers aren't being properly tested. Requiring a negative test has problems, given that the test may have been taken days earlier, when the traveler was infected but with a viral load that was too low to show up on a test. People have died of Covid on airplanes!
     
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  17. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    When I went to Kaiser on January 22, I was given the Moderna vaccine and a followup appointment for February 19 (4 weeks later rather than the usual 3 week return for a Pfizer vaccine). Allowing about 10 days for the second injection to be fully functional means I'm looking towards March 1 now. The Kaiser nurse said she had no idea what the problem was with the Moderna vaccine in Southern California because Kaiser Santa Clara had not seen any problems. She speculated that the vaccine batch there may have had a problem with storage or delivery rather than with the quality of the vaccine itself.
     
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  18. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    FYI - my daughter and her boyfriend haven't seen each other in a year now. He is in Toronto, she is here. :(
     
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  19. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey at least she has a boyfriend. My daughter in Berlin has been on her own this whole lockdown.
     
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  21. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    • What part of this bothers you? That they invited the vaccinated health care workers? Or the 14,500 other fans that probably mostly aren't? Or fans just being there at all?
     
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  22. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just what she tells you. ;);)
     
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  23. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It's worse for my kids...they've been locked down with me!

    My three priorities when I finally get the vax behind me: dentist, haircut, and botox. It's not as though we'll actually be able to go anywhere for a while.
     
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  24. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. This Super Bowl invite implies that as soon as you get your vax shots, you can go out and live a normal life.
    • It just feels too early. When’s the Super Bowl? In a couple of weeks? When did vaccinations start? What are the chances the healthcare workers have max immunity by the time of the event?
    2. The success of the vaccination program is going to depend on whether or not people continue to practice social distancing and wearing masks. After all, they still don’t know if being vaccinated keeps you from spreading the disease if you get infected.
    • THerefore, it is important for people to keep adhering to the same safety habits until everyone is vaccinated
    • Also, as a side effect, you don’t want to create a have and have-not environment that motivates inequitable distribution. There is already a concierge service in Europe that will fly you to the UAE for vaccinations, and while you are there you go on desert safaris and such.
    3. Yes, the 1/3 stadium capacity really worries me. Those 14,500 probably unvaccinated fans will increase cases/deaths in FL as well as across the USA as they travel.

    Of course healthcare workers deserve the best this country has to offer. I just don’t think a super bowl ticket at this time is an optimal gift. It’s a marketing ploy that could have bad health outcomes for all.
     
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  25. Selas66

    Selas66 New Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jan 25, 2021
    Boring to watch games without fans
     

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