Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get that... I am not saying he won't get back to his post-covid self.... just that he needs to sit for a few games and try and make a difference coming off the bench. Perhaps he can make a few plays in relief w/ a bit less stress on him. Sure would like to see him play like the number he wears on his back again.
     
  2. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    He's in a bit of a down spell. He's not playing badly. He earned 4 corners today and connected here and there with folks. His consistency is off. Couple three league games not starting will do him good. A lot of takes here are way too pessimistic for how he is playing. It's not poor, but it's not peak Pulisic either. Them's the breaks with being a young soccer star.
     
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  3. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    Part of the problem is opposing players now know Pulisic’s moves. Mainly, when attacking, CP relies on the defender to reach in and make a stab at the ball, and then he blows by them. Defenders know now to not reach, hold him up, and he’ll have to give the ball up or back pass.
    that doesn’t mean he can no longer be effective, he just needs to tailor his game a little to adjust to what the defense now expects. If this is a true meritocracy, CP should be benched. But I think that will bring the best out of him long-term.
     
  4. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Chelsea players looked today as if they just realized their coach is learning on the job.
     
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  5. beamish

    beamish Member+

    Jul 6, 2009
    Tuchel and Pulisic reunited
     
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  6. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m Tuchel’d to death that he and CP10 are reunited! CP10 is going to benefit. Tuchel is a solid manager with an actual plan he can execute. He’s established and not trying to find himself like Lampard. Lamps jumped shipped too early to Chelsea. He’ll land on his feet and become a good manager someday. Lamps might have to drop back down Championship to do so, though. No shame in that.
     
  7. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    From the official announcement:

    "This has been a very difficult decision, and not one that the owner and the Board have taken lightly.

    We are grateful to Frank for what he has achieved in his time as Head Coach of the Club. However, recent results and performances have not met the Club’s expectations, leaving the Club mid-table without any clear path to sustained improvement.

    I've bolded the key element as I see it - no clear path forward.
     
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  8. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    so how does Lampard's legacy shape up against those of other managers at the club in the last decade or so?
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    A Tuchel formation:

    ------------------------Mendy-----------------------
    -------Christensen---Zouma---Rudiger--------
    Pulisic---------------Kovacic---------------James
    ------------------------Ziyech------------------------
    ------Havertz--------Werner------Mount--------
     
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  10. greenarch

    greenarch Member

    Jan 16, 2021
    #41735 greenarch, Jan 25, 2021
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    Personally I think this is a terrible look for Chelsea. Who would want to take a job at this club other than money? Still remember what they did to Carlo f'n Ancelotti. I'm going to laugh when Tuchel comes in and doesn't actually improve things like they want him to. He is a prickly personality and will undoubtedly clash with this board. Lampard deserved until the end of the season with what he achieved last year and topping the CL group. They knew they were hiring an inexperienced manager for a project, there were going to be ups and downs. He should have at least gotten the opportunity to turn it around with a good run of form, if not that. United gave that opportunity to Ole and Arsenal are with Arteta. Seems like most fans aren't in support of this.
     
  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    what did they do to Ancelotti?
     
  12. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    agree with you ... I think it will help him to just sit for a few games - train well - and get his mind in order. "Can you take the pebble from my hand grasshopper?"
     
  13. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that is one reason for the sophomore slump ... once some of your abilities become understood and countered - how do you react .... it will come down to training, preparation, and mental toughness ....
     
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  14. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will be interested to see how Silva responds ..... not worried about the young players - because Chelsea does not have one or two but a whole bunch - and Tuchel may understand them well and line up a good system ... but how does the defense and in particular Silva respond .... Dortmund was/is not known for a world class defense - and bringing Tuchel in where Chelsea have shipped some goals (hint Chelsea D is much weaker than Man City) in the last year under Frank may be questionable .... have Roman and Marina gone from one bright shiny ball to the next one?

    for CP he still has the same issue - get your head and training in order. I wonder how Mount does now that his father has left the stage.
     
  15. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
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    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no Silva huh?
     
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  16. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

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    Dec 27, 2017
    #41741 Noriega7, Jan 25, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2021
    So should we expect CP to keep his spot next match with Tuchel in place?

    Also, wasn't he the guy who played CP as a wingback?...I'm hopeful that won't happen here.

    As for Frank, he at least trusted CP instead of CHO with his job on the line but CP failed to produce enough..so I'm not too celebratory about Frank's sacking.

    Let's hope Tuchel will wake up CP.
     
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  17. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    We've only got 48 hours to sort this out, so we better get busy ...
     
  18. Trav-Man

    Trav-Man Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Short-term (2-3 weeks) this is probably going to look pretty rough at CFC, but hopefully, a cohesive game plan can start to be spotted on the pitch and our boy will benefit from it.
     
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  19. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Some initial impressions:

    Pulisic will be fine in the medium-to-long term - too much talent and drive to stay down for long.

    Some short-term tumult seems almost certain, however. I'm sure Lampard had 'his guys,' who will be upset, not just Mount. If memory serves Ziyech, Werner and Havertz all came to Chelsea because (they said) Lampard had sold them on his vision.
     
  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Poor Lampard. Fired from the club where you're a Living Legend
     
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  21. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    This can only be a step forward for the club given how completely out of sync so many parts of the lineup looked, game after game. Tuchel will still have to try to fit mismatched pieces (that Frank selected) together, but presumably he will address (through formations or otherwise) the lousy team play — the lack of competition,event army movement, lack of vision when good runs were made, etc. Some of those problems seemed. So basic, the kind of thing fans fairly expected to be ironed out over time.
     
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  22. munichfan9

    munichfan9 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 7, 2005
    Burke, Virginia
    This is what Chelsea does. If Tuchel doesn't work out they will fire him and find someone who will get the job done.
     
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  23. munichfan9

    munichfan9 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 7, 2005
    Burke, Virginia
    I agree, I think he was also brought in to address the play of their 2 big german acquisitions.
     
  24. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    At age 22 or whatever he is, CP can weather whatever happens next if you believe (as I do) that last year’s injury did not diminish his skills. He doesn’t seem like a great crosser of the ball, so wingback seems an odd place to put him. But no doubt he’d learn something if that’s where Tuchel puts him.
     
  25. greenarch

    greenarch Member

    Jan 16, 2021
    Anyone read the athletic article? Apparently it implies Lampard didn't actually want those or one of those players and it was a board decision? I'm assuming Havertz was the one that was a board signing, since Werner said he had extensive conversations with Frank and Havertz doesn't really fit Chelsea's style of play. Honestly they were better without the germans, so bringing in a manager to make things work around them seems like a bad idea.
     

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