Pulisic and Musah all games PBP thread

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  1. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I think both of you are right. The problem is that "organization" is fundamentally flawed.

    Frank spent a ton of money and from what is publicly known it appeared those were the players he wanted. They over paid for Chilly but he has had some moments this year and is a big improvement over Alonso or Emerson under Frank. Thiago was a free. Not sure about Mendy but he is worlds better than Kepa last year.

    I think Ziyech is probably going to be okay, and he has an eye for a pass. Havertz. I have seen nothing to make me think he is going to be useful at all. I don't know the player and so I don't know if it was always thus or if it is some lingering Covid thing.

    Werner looks to be one a trick pony, getting on the end of OTT balls or balls played into a channel. That is fine if you aren't facing a bunker. Intricate touches and aerial presence do not appear to be his thing and yet most of the offense appears to be hit hopeful crosses.

    I still think Frank is caught between two minds. I think he really wanted to play two up top when he bought Werner. He got on a run of unbeatens playing a
    4-3-3 set up and now it is almost like he forgot why he bought these particular players in the first place.


    I see his options as 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2. I do not see any reason to persist with the 3 in the midfield. They haven't won the middle of the pitch since this bad run started, even against Morcambe the midfield was hardly convincing. Going to a 4-4-2 would shorten some of the distance you are asking those guys to cover.
     
  2. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Nice wording in the Havertz analysis:

    "But the manager simply cannot afford to do that with a player who's both immensely talented and cost an extortionate amount of money."
     
  3. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    LOL... good catch...

    I just do not think dudes speed of thought is up to PL level. The only hope for him, is the game will slow down for him as he gets reps. I thought Frank gave him a typical 10 role against Leicester and when he did get a chance he made a bad pass or tarried on the ball as if he had all day.
     
  4. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like Weston in the box yesterday, unfortunately. But yes, it is pretty clear that Havertz was not premiership ready when he arrived. One hopes that is something that can be improved upon with time.

    In terms of Werner, he is on a cold streak like you read about, but he is also not getting any kind of proper service for the type of player that he is. Given the system that Frank is deploying, I'm not sure how he can remedy that. I don't know that the system totally suits Pulisic either, but it's better for the flank attackers than it is for the lone striker.
     
  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    No one watching???
     
  6. oscar_in_fw

    oscar_in_fw Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wes is more fun to watch than Chelsea's offensive offense mess.
     
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  7. markandrew78

    markandrew78 Member

    Jun 10, 2007
    CP not having a good game so far.
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Pulisic has been a non-entity in the first half.
     
  9. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    I haven't seen the whole game so far. But CP is mostly just making back passes. Chelsea didnt pay the big bucks for that. I never thought I'd say this, but he needs to start playing with more determination like Mount.
     
  10. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    Not that Ziyech or Werner look good from the parts of the game I've seen.
     
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  11. markandrew78

    markandrew78 Member

    Jun 10, 2007
    Another missed chance for CP. kid needs a goal.
     
  12. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

    Newcastle United
    Dec 27, 2017
    CP is really out of form right now...Surprised Frank keep on starting him...CHO must be looking horrible in training.
     
  13. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    I think he's looked a bit better in the second half. Although Chelsea have been on their heels. Havertz is the attacker who looks completely lost.
     
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  14. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    That lengthy GQ photoshoot has obviously taken its toll.
     
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  15. Nastrabrahmus

    Nastrabrahmus Member+

    Mar 29, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    He looks like crap let’s be honest. Just subbed for CHO
     
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  16. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    He's off. Good call after he hurt himself on that shot early in the half.
     
  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Let's see what CHO does now.
     
  18. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulisic has been bad. Chelsea has been bad. And they both are intimately intertwined with each other. They’ve got to figure it out.
     
  19. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    CH-O has an immediate impact. Havent seen CP put in two crosses that nice on a while.
     
  20. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulisic isn’t even a good player anymore...
     
  21. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    He wasn't that bad in the second half. At least compared to the other attacking players.
     
  22. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I'm wondering if Puli started this game 100%. As soon as he was out, they were treating him.
     
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  23. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

    Newcastle United
    Dec 27, 2017
    Well, that is it...I think we can expect CP to spend some time on the bench and I have no problem with that...CP simply hasn't looked nothing like what he looked last year.
     
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  24. DCU1984

    DCU1984 Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cho has earned a start for sure. The good news is there are lots of games and Pulisic will also look good running at tired defenders off the bench.
     
  25. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    Let’s all agree, Pulisic should be benched. should have had a goal in the first half, maybe 2. He’s a bystander out there lately, and he’s not causing any threats.
    let CHO start for awhile, and hopefully CP can come off the bench and make an impact, then regain some form to become a starter again
     
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