No longer a Barça lounger: Sergiño Dest at PSV (olf FC Barcelona)

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  1. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes because as crazy as it sounds, this thread is dead even when he plays.
     
  2. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Because La Liga’s US TV deal is terrible. We all see much more Serie A and Bundesliga than La Liga. I’d give anything to reconnect with the sheer unrelenting weirdness of Ray Hudson commentary again. But I don’t get BeIN Sports or whatever carrier La Liga has now.
     
  3. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can spend something like 50 bucks a month for FUBO TV but it includes a bunch of other junk i don't want to pay for.
     
  4. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got the Sling Football package for $60 for the first year and then I think it is $120 next year. But it has Ligue One too. Pretty solid as I can watch Dest, Musah and Weah.
     
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  5. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
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    Obviously this may not work for everyone, but I easily split my Fubo package with 4 other friends and I absolutely love it. Serie A, Portugal, Spain, CL, Mexico and some other random stuff, all with super easy DVR capability.

    I sound like a commercial, sorry.
     
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  6. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sling one year deal for $60 for BeIn channels. It works well and it is good to hear Hudson once in a while. He cracks me up.
     
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  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    FWIW, the fans in the Blaugranas forum consider Dest a quality guy who just may be tired. You'll be hard-pressed to find any fan who thinks he's "over" as a player.

    https://blaugranas.es/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=229&start=35700

    It's in Spanish and Catalá, of course. Use translator if you must.
     
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  8. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
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  9. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can see the difference in play between Barca and USMNT, is like day and night.
     
  10. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah one of them actually plays like a team.
     
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  11. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    This x100
     
  12. Beastmode21

    Beastmode21 Member+

    United States
    Jan 19, 2009
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fanatiz if you watch La Liga. It’s cheap and you get Argentine league.
     
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  13. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    When I tried to sign up it only offered me a free plan with highlights only. It actually works? I should try again?
     
  14. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
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  15. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    A guy who's just turned 20, is in his second pro season and has just moved to another country to join a super club that's in turmoil, under a coach who's probably going to be fired and wasn't universally rated to begin with, has started to struggle. Who'da thunk that?

    "Form is temporary but class is permanent". As long as he keeps plugging away and doesn't let his current form get to him, he'll come back. Most likely under a new coach.
     
  16. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The turmoil was one of the reasons I was hesitant on the move for Dest. Yes going to Barca is hard to pass up and he had a quicker path to playing time. But this Barca team needed and still needs a cleansing.
     
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  17. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All of this would have been reasonable to predict. The problem is he isn't at Sevilla or Valencia. He is at one of the biggest clubs in world football and that is a very unforgiving place to be. If you ain't the best (or close to) in your position in world football, you have no place at Barcelona, is what I would say if I'm a Barca fanatic. Dest is clearly not the best, or even close to the best right back in world football. He's outstanding, but top 1-5? No.

    Just off the top of my head and mostly EPL because I don't see the other leagues because I am too cheap to pay for ESPN+ or BEIN.

    Castagne
    TAA
    Kyle Walker
    Carvajal
    Wan-Bassaka
    Aurier

    All right now better than Dest. I think Sergino was a purchase that Koeman made because he could get him, and he knew him well. If someone like Xavi comes in and takes the reigns, I worry that days might be numbered for guys like Dest.

    The only caveat to all of this is the massive finanacial mismanagement that the Barca board has presided over which will require a little frugality in player purchases for the next few years until the Barca money machine is up and running again. With Messi leaving shortly, it might actually even be a number of years before Barca is able to solve the financial crises they are dealing with now. So the pressure on Dest to perform immediately might be a little bit less severe as they won't be able to just go out and buy 11 new Barca level players.
     
  18. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Dest was performing fine, with several 'man-of-the-match' quality performances, then his form dropped. Why? Presumably, it was partly physical {overuse, playing injured}; partly team 'tactics' {playing more through Alba, back on the left; general disorganization and lack of effort by others}; and partly mental/emotional {new country/language, Barca turmoil, manager at risk, Konrad stuck in YA Academy},

    Dest can play at this level, and if for any reason things don't work out at Barcelona, he'll have a lot of good clubs to choose from. Yes, he still has plenty to work on, but he's at a good place to improve.
     
  19. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    There's also the COVID factor. Spain has been exceptionally badly hit and has much stricter lockdowns than the Netherlands. That can't be good for the psychology or the acclimatisation to a new country (which reinforces the negative impact on the psychology).

    As for the deep cleansing, it isn't just the team and the coaches. It's the entire FO, especially the sporting director - Eric Abidal was a complete clusterf*#k
     
  20. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am concerned he has already lost his spot and the confidence of the coach. Mingueza keeps getting the starts now and when Roberto comes back it will be that much harder to break back in. I have a bad feeling about Dest at Barca now. I hope I am wrong. I thought he actually played pretty well for a while and then he had a couple of less than stellar games (one poor)... but I think it is unfair if he has already been cast aside. Not even starting in the Copa? Bummer.
     
  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
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  22. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does this mean he's injured or "injured"?
    Why are there "quotes" around "words"?
    What does it all "mean"?
     
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  23. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
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  24. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He said it, not "me"
     
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  25. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    "I" don't know. "Did" he?
     

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