French Division 1

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by guignol, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #4151 hotjam2, Jan 18, 2021
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    This would be a great thesis except most women pro soccer players don’t make ‘pro’ salaries & the top quality ones that do, make 50 times less money than their male counterparts.
    In France, seems like Lyon & PSG are the only clubs that pay a decent salary. And even with the rest of the ten division 1 clubs I’ve read how a lot of the female players are living in cramped, dorm style apartments on a their respective club grounds. This can get old when your nearing late 20’s/early 30’s age wise.
    Treating women like 2nd class citizens is why the participation rate for females is lower than you might expect; basketball has twice the participation rate in France over soccer.

    The absurdity of the women’s game in Europe could be best illustrated last summer in Germany; 3rd ranked Hoffenheim had an big important game vs Bayern Munich for a chance to qualify for the ‘prestigious’ Champions League. Well that coach had to miss the game cause he couldn’t get off his day job, being a mid school teacher & it was finals that week(so much for the importance of the Champions League, lol).
    The billionaire owner of Hoffenheim finally offered him a full time paying coaching job, but the dude declined & quit (as apparently he made more money as a junior high teacher)/Germany as well with only two teams that pay an actual pro salary(to the whole team)
     
  2. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    I hear you, and you make good points. I think we are at an inflection point in the W game. Big clubs investing and higher public interest in the game can quickly change the salary levels in Europe.

    But my post was related to Macario's choice of going to Europe. She stated she wanted to play with the best and improve her game. The CL is a big part of that IMO. I believe that even if she could chose a NWSL club to play, she would still opt to go to Europe.
     
  3. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    His reply had nothing to do with what you posted. He's just putting the boot into "Europe" as usual because someone was praising it.
     
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  4. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    Matchday 12 Highlights

    Paris Saint-Germain FC v. FCG Bordeaux


    ASJ Soyaux v. Paris FC


    Olympique Lyonnais v. Stade de Reims


    EA Guingamp v. Montpellier HSC
     
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  5. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    The Stade De Reims Gk is pretty good. Sadly her defenders were not.
     
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  6. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Was this match really as close as the score suggests?
     
  7. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    OL's new signing had her first game for the USWNT yesterday. The young promise didn't have a bad game, but she needs to develop a lot.

    Hard to judge from 45' play, but she had a surprising bad first touch and ball control (it could be due to debut nervousness) and she was out of sync with her teammates (her first game). She showed composure (even humility for a kid that just signed with OL), good game vision, and participated in some build-up. But, IMO she will have to raise her game to secure a starting place in OL and the USWNT. I was expecting a bit more from a 21 yo player, but she comes from College soccer and will need some time to adapt to a professional level.

    USWNT's first-half team completely dominated Colombia and showed why they are #1 and are the team to beat in the next Olympic. Their first goal was world-class. I tuned in to watch Macario debut and end up seeing a Dunn, Ertz, and Mewis sisters clinic.
     
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  8. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Alessia Russo British but played for North Carolina Tar Heels came to Man United to play for them and scored goals before she injured herself, some players can adapt quickly. She was suppose to stay for one more year at college but COVID disrupted that plan and she change her mind at the time.
     
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  9. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    #4159 Folken, Jan 20, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2021
    Hi Blisset!
    Not really.
    PSG dominated most of the game. Bordeaux looked pretty harmless
     
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  10. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    Like most of the D1 teams, around half of Reims players are not fully professional (yet?).
     
  11. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I think 9 out of 12 teams are professional now in D1 Arkema.
     
  12. Francewnt87

    Francewnt87 Member

    Jun 19, 2015
    That was her first game in over a year. The last game she played in was the NCAAW College Cup final in like September of 2019.
     
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  13. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    Granted, It is more than half...but yet I do recall one interview of Amandine Miquel (Stade de Reims' coach). She said her players aren't all fully professional.

    All French clubs' coaching staff are fully professional that for sure
     
  14. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Soyaux, Fleury and Issy are the 3 non professional clubs as mentioned in the debate earlier this season about the 6M€ given by the LFP to the D1 Arkema teams.
     
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  15. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    I don't know sir, regardless of what you mentioned it seems some players are far benefiting from it.

    here is the interview of Amandine Miquel head coach of Le Stade de Reims
    this sentence precisely:
    "J’ai des filles qui vont bosser de 8h à 18h et qui débarquent à l’entraînement après, témoigne Amandine Miquel, entraîneure du Stade de Reims. Alors forcément, il y a des inégalités, elles progressent moins vite que celles qui sont à temps plein sur le foot ou qui arrivent fraîches à l’entraînement. Les écarts se creusent et elles n’y peuvent rien" (easy to "google" translate)

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    Matchday 13 Highlights

    FCG Bordeaux v. Stade de Reims


     
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  16. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    (a little late) MatchDay 13 Highlights

    EA Guingamp v. PSG


    Dijon FCO v. ASJ Soyaux


    Le Havre AC v. GPSO 92 Issy


    Montpellier HSC v. FC Fleury 91


    Paris FC - Olympique Lyonnais
     
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  17. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yes professional teams as in teams attached to a men professional team. Issy, Soyaux and Fleury are not attached to a men pro team. Fleury have a men team in National 2 ie amateur team.

    That's why those pro teams got the money from the men LFP and not the 3 other teams.
     
  18. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    French Cup results:

    Issy 2 Montpellier 1
    Fleury 0 PSG 2
    Bordeaux 5 Le Havre 0
    Guingamp 3 Soyaux 0
    Dijon 1 PFC 1 (pso 4-2)
    Reims 0 Lyon 5

    2 upsets with MHSC and PFC losing. The six winning teams are through to the last 16 where they will meet the 10 teams coming from the amateur section of the draw ( 10 teams).

    Amateur football is still suspended in France which means only the D1 teams are allowed to play with D2 teams only allowed to have their professional players train.
     
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  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Matchday 14 has two games postponed due to Covid-19 for the first time this season: Dijon v Bordeaux and PFC v Reims. Those games will be played 6 March.
     
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  20. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    MatchDay 14 Highlights

    Olympique Lyonnais v. Montpellier HSC


    FC Fleury 91 v. Paris Saint-Germain FC


    GPSO 92 Issy v. ASJ Soyaux


    Le Havre AC v. EA Guingamp
     
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  21. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Curious situation in D1 Arkema as GPSO Issy 92 boycotted training yesterday in protest of the manager's sacking.

    Yacine Guiesma was backed by the players but was sacked last Thursday. They are currently in 11th place out of 12. The coach has been there for five years and took the team from DH to D1

    The players are also asking to get rid of the sporting director Alexandre Barbier who has brought in the new coach and sacked Guiesma as part of the Elite project.

    Camillo Vaz ex PSG is the new coach, he was there before the Qatari money pushed PSG women towards professional football.

    Next is PSG v Issy in the League, PSG won the game 14-0 earlier in the season.
     
  22. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    D1 Arkema is back on Saturday

    Bordeaux - Le Havre
    Montpellier - Dijon
    Paris FC - Guingamp
    Fleury - Reims
    Soyaux - Lyon
    PSG - Issy
     
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  23. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
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  24. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Matchday 16, Saturday 13 March, the title decider Lyon v PSG at the Groupama Stadium ko at 9pm live on Canal Plus

    As per the table

    1. PSG 43 pts
    2. Lyon 42 pts

    Head to head game which is the tie-breaker PSG 1 Lyon 0. Lyon will really to win this one to keep their title. If it ends up in a draw, PSG will have the head to head advantage and will only need to finish level on points with Lyon.

    Also if Lyon win by one goal and PSG score in the game, PSG will have the head to head advantage and will only need to finish level on points with Lyon. ( 2-1, 3-2, 4-3 etc).

    If Lyon win 1-0 and the teams finish the season level on points, it will go to the overall goal difference and PSG are 12 goals ahead.
     
  25. Folken

    Folken Member

    PSG
    France
    Nov 29, 2019
    Matchday 15 Highlights


    Paris Saint-Germain FC v. GPSO 92 Issy


    ASJ Soyaux v. Olympique Lyonnais


    FC Fleury 91 v. Stade de Reims


    Paris FC v. EA Guingamp


    Montpellier HSC v. Dijon FCO
     
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