Jordan Morris at Swansea (fricking on fricking loan)

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  1. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Are the two Bundesliga clubs also looking at Morris for a loan or to purchase?
     
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  2. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    As I'm sure has been mentioned, Morris is in a weird spot.

    He's worth more to Seattle from both a performance and marketing perspective, than he is on the world market.

    He also makes a lot, by MLS standards (620 in 2019, which I'm sure has gone up a little this year), that few clubs in Europe, especially after Covid, can top.

    He's good, but he's not elite. And he's young but he's not prospect young.

    So, most of the clubs that can afford both his salary and transfer fee are the type of big clubs that A) can do better or B) only make an investment like that on a younger player they can flip for a ROI.

    So that leaves a weird and limited market.

    I have no doubt JoMo could go into almost any team outside the Big 5 and regularly make the 18, if not start. And I think he could do the same for most of the clubs in the lower halves of the Big 5.

    Unfortunately, most of those clubs can't afford a player like Morris when there's minimal chance of a sell-on.

    So... if a promotion candidate team in the Championship is willing to take him on loan and will buy him if they move up, that's about as optimal situation as a 26-year old American in MLS making over 600K and still under contract for 3 years can really hope for.

    Sure, a bottom-feeder top-tier team like Schalke could do the same, and it might. But until they make that offer, a swan in the hand...
     
  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    we all wiill be.
     
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  4. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

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    Jordan's on $850k this year. He's not making a ton of money.
     
  5. DirectK

    DirectK Member

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  6. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

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    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
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    Is he a lock on starter or squad player for those German clubs? If it's the latter I can see why he'd prefer Swansea. It's a loan, an opportunity to prove he's good enough for that level, and that can't happen if he's on the bench more games than not. That's the only real reason I can come up with other than language, why he'd prefer Swans to the others.
     
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  7. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Jordan would definitely not be starting over Leon Bailey and Moussa Diaby at Leverkusen.
     
  8. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    He might just prefer a short loan instead of sale and Swansea need a forward badly enough to give him that option.
     
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  9. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Leverkusen is on ESPN+ right now if you want watch their wingers. Bailey hasn't really impressed me.
     
  10. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    He has 9 goals and 7 assists in 20 matches this season between the BL and Europa League. He’s a $30+ million player.
     
  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Yup, and he's just 23.
     
  12. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
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    Whenever I've watched him he's been meh, but I haven't watched that much so I'll take your word.
     
  13. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Morris’s age doesn’t seem like Leverkusen’s m.o. either. Maybe they just see a loan to finish out the season and provide some depth since Paulinho has been out with an ACL. They’ll also at times play ‘03 wunderkid Florian Wirtz out wide.
     
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  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    The HYPE a few years ago was that he'd soon be worth 60 million.
     
  15. Pixiejoe7

    Pixiejoe7 Member

    Universidad Católica
    United States
    Jun 5, 2020
    Avoid Leverkusen. At best he'd be Bailey's back up
     
  16. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
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    Nah, it's just Morris is an MLS champ and very productive player. On top that, his athleticism is world class with solid enough skill and technique to push for more.
     
  17. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
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    Oh, nvm, the speak english in the UK for a guy like Morris that did not want to leave Seattle that probably is super important. Swansea it is.
     
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  18. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I understand prioritizing minutes over prestige or $. I think it happens more than most fans want to admit. I hope he goes to the best place where he will play.
     
  19. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
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    Why do people keep acting like Morris can only play 1 spot, and it's not even the one he came up as + still considers his best position (striker)?

    If he'd be backup to Bailey, at worst he'd backup all front 3 positions, on a top 5 league championship contender, europa league participant, & likely ucl club next year. That's enough for Weah to be receiving praise right now & warrant a starting spot w/ the USMNT. So it still wouldn't be an unfavorable situation.
     
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  20. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
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    Jul 3, 2004
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    I agree. If he was a rotational player for Leverkusen - that’s pretty prestigious.
     
  21. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

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    Jul 3, 2004
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    What at Wolverhampton? Last I checked - they were going through an injury crisis up. There’s always the issue then of what about when those players come back though...
     
  22. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    Literally almost no one thought this. I don’t know that I could find even one person, certainly not someone who writes about the sport for a living, even on this blog who hyped a 60M potential transfer fee.
     
  23. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
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    For Bailey? They sure did. Chelsea fans were clamoring for Abramovich to buy him a few years back. I'm not sure you're talking about Bailey, though.
     
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  24. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
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    Yeah, Swansea is no Leverkusen, but I think Jordan needs two things:
    1) To feel a bit like a big fish in a small pond
    2) To feel comfortable culturally

    At Leverkusen, he's a no one rotational player. That'll be crushing for him, and I don't think it would be particularly useful for his confidence. He also would much rather live in an English-speaking place.

    Leverkusen is the better team, and for any prospect coming up I'd rather they play for Leverkusen, but I'm not sure how much I care about him playing most weeks for Swansea vs some weeks for Leverkusen. The championship is still a highly competitive league and plenty of good teams and managers reside there. He also won't be bunkering every week in the EPL, which is nice.

    I really don't hate the move. I'd watch him a bunch in the Championship, and I think he'd develop about as much on Swansea as he would on Leverkusen.
     
  25. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
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    United States
    Germans speak better English than Brits.
     
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