The Pickford Richarlison Thread: aka The Injury Thread III

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  1. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    That's hogwash.
    Was David Silva any more robust? Is TAA's physique much different? Is Jota's? Fabinho looks like he's a skipped meal away from starvation. This isn't 1974.
    It's apparent his muscular system is at risk every time he places it under some strain, but it doesn't have anything to do with his physique. And, like Sturridge, it does not seem that he'll ever be capable of remaining fit for long.

    With Keita and Thiago and Ox all having extensive injury histories, Hendo and Milner aging, and Gini (likely) leaving, our CM is in need of extensive updating.
     
  2. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
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    Liverpool FC
    Many small framed players play 'large' , Mane for one, Gini is another. But not all do . Keita and Taki for me do not. Both are technically gifted skilled players but both often too easily brushed off the ball .
    Growing up playing in England you wouldn't last in the game if you didn't play 'hard' on the ball. It's just an observation from me but Keita doesn't .
    He's young , never seemed to have these injury issues prior to coming but its been one after another for him, he can't stay fit for long.
    I'd love to be proven wrong but as time passes he seems more suited to a less physical league .
     
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  3. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    It's a standard thing for foreign players arriving in the Prem being stunned by the physicality required and the constant need (as speke says) to "go hard" multiple times per game.

    it's why many players underperform, they carry too many persistent knocks from game to game, even if their bodies don't let them down. many conclude it isn't worth the risk to their careers and quietly move on.

    AFAIK Keita had no significant injury history in Germany, so adjusting to the Prem is obviously a huge challenge for him
     
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  4. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp says Naby Keita is near a return from injury. He has not played since 19 December but can return "soon".

    Defender Joel Matip could be fit to face Manchester United on 17 January. "He is in a good way but if it will be United or a few days later, I don’t know," said Klopp.

    The German says Diogo Jota is still "a few weeks away" from returning to training following a knee injury.
     
  5. B.A.

    B.A. Member+

    Sep 12, 2007
    IL
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    Or he is just a pussy.
     
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  6. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    the Bundi isn't a league for wimps.

    as I'm sure someone will be here soon to explain to us ....
     
  7. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    give me a fukking break ...

    https://talksport.com/football/815432/
    Michael Oliver has admitted he should have shown Jordan Pickford a red card for his challenge on Virgil van Dijk during the Merseyside derby in October.
     
  8. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    What I was surprised about looking at it afterwards was that nothing was expected on-field in terms of a red card. None of the players were asking for that.

    What a stupid statement by Oliver. He has now officially encouraged players to surround the ref for every call. :oops:
     
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  9. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    yep - "Not my fault, the players didn't complain!"

    what an asshole.
     
  10. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    And after these statements he's going to be allowed to continue officiating in the premiership? Of course...
     
  11. CB-West

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    Sep 20, 2013
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    I thought that was, specifically, what VAR was for...to get right the onfield errors made by the ref crew...:eek:o_O:(
     
  12. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    I found that strange-/ are players meant to appeal a for a decision as they do in cricket? That said, he’s still the best referee in the Premier League. Make of that what you will,
     
  13. imasyko

    imasyko Member+

    May 16, 2002
    Spring City, PA
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    BECAUSE IT WAS SO F*CKING OBVIOUS, TWIT!
     
  14. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has suggested to The Liverpool Echo that Joel Matip could be available for the match against Manchester United.

    Klopp has said that Matip is close to returning to full fitness, but he has made it clear that he has not decided whether or not to include him in the squad to take on United at Anfield in the Premier League this weekend.
     
  15. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
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    I'm sure Matip will be given a fitness test prior to the game and will start if it's at all possible. Lets hope his body has recovered enough .
     
  16. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    That’s the worry, isn’t it?
     
  17. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Liverpool FC
    I feel sorry for Matip. can't imagine how frustrated he must be.
     
  18. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
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    May 28, 2018
    fwiw I wouldn't chance it. He's just too fragile.
     
  19. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Kostas Tsimikas has been spotted back in Liverpool training as the Greek international recovers from injury.
     
  20. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
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    Liverpool FC
    Just reading in the Echo that Jota is expected back mid February so still is a few weeks off .
     
  21. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    ugh - that later than orginally planned and certainly not the optimistic end of Jan...
     
  22. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
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    Yep, I was really disappointed reading that . We have a seriously busy month ahead with some massively important matches .
     
  23. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Nonsense, Speke. He was playing in Germany for years. It's not like he is constantly running at mane. Son, Rashford speeds. We could say the same about Joe Gomez. They are just unlucky.
     
  24. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    On a more important note .. what the fvck is going on with Henderson? I didn't see any injury post in this thread??
     
  25. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
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    Liverpool FC
    He looks like a lightweight , Zaq , constantly bumped , brushed , knocked off the ball and also constantly picking up knocks. It just suggests to me that Keita might not be able to handle the physical rigors of the PL. We have other smaller guys like Mane and Gini who actually are very strong on the ball despite their size and rarely in the treatment room.
     

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