The Serbian Superman - Welcome Luka Jovic

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  1. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
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    Aug 9, 2018
    Apparently it’s Jovic that wanted out, can’t say I blame him, he could have sat on the bench and collect his check the entire but the guy wants to play, have to respect that.

     
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  2. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

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    #1427 Excape Goat, Jan 12, 2021
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    He can play himself back to Madrid, I think. At least, he can play himself back to a reasonable "price" tag.
     
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  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Plus the factor of being irrelevant for national team selections etc. etc.
     
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  4. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    Damn, we have this habit of paying off our failed signings. *Sighs*

    Well, no one forsaw how bad Jovic would be to be fair.
     
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  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Also, with that done, can we now bring in the player our coach really wanted? Borja Mayoral?
     
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  6. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He barely played, let's drop this nonsense. He's had a few stinkers, but Benzema is in a series of three consecutive bad games now and nobody dares say a word about it or sub him at some point of the game.
     
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  7. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    When did he have a good game though?
     
  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He's played more minutes for his national team than Real Madrid. We have him for the entire season and he's recorded more minutes in two weeks with them.

    There is no excuse for that.
     
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  9. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Half the minutes he played for us he was asked to play a role he was even suited for. The team is practically the a bad 80s TV show at times with difference being the weird Macguyer hacks dont always beat the bad guys and we don't have a plan a B.
     
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  10. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Watch him shine for frankfurt now that ZZ isn't there to halt him anymore.
     
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  11. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
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    It’s not really a habit in this case, he’s not going to go back to Frankfurt and halve his wages and give that move the green light.
     
  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    To respond witht he same token. When did Marcelo have an exceptional game that warrants multiple starts? When did Isco have an exceptional game to excuse all those minutes.

    When did a player that has never been a defender in his life play better as a defender than somebody we paid 50 mil. Euro to do so, and another we paid 30 mil. to do so?

    Zidane has his major strengths, but also his major weaknesses. Nobody is perfect.
     
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  13. 2Magia2

    2Magia2 Member

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    Brazil
    Jul 17, 2018
    No..You are just a Zidane hater. Zidane has flaws but even his flaws are flawless.

    Jovic is discarded because he is crappy on & off the pitch.

    Hazard plays even though he is crappy on & off the pitch because he cost 40M more than Jovic. And Perez is probably forcing Zidane.

    Asensio plays because Perez refused to sell Bale.

    Isco is getting minutes because Perez refuses to get rid of oldies like Kroos & Modric.

    Marcelo plays because Perez didn't sell him before Zidane took over.

    Militao doesn't play because Perez didn't sell Varane.

    Odegaard doesn't play because Perez refused to buy Casemiro's replacement.

    Full props to Zidane for winning a league last year even though it was Perez who choses the starting XI and the subs... On top of that Zidane has absolutely no say in transfers either. Mendy is the only exception. Since Hazard and Jovic are no good we should assume it wasn't Zidane's decision to sign them.
     
  14. Varnagel

    Varnagel Member+

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    Jun 4, 2017
    Idk why people are mad at Zidane for not giving Jovic enough playing time.

    Goals & Assist by Strikers since Jovic joined the team

    - Karim Benzema: 55 G/A in 5,825 Minutes (G/A every 106' minutes)
    - Mariano Diaz: 2 G/A in 359 Minutes (G/A every 180' minutes
    - Luka Jovic : 4 G/A in 1,014 Minutes (G/A every 254' minutes)
     
  15. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Benzema has scored in 9 out of 21 matches this season.

    I was looking at his season out of curiosity yesterday, and he's either having man of the match type games this season with goal doubles and assists, or he's a non factor. You could argue that a substitute striker should be getting about 25 to 30 minutes every time that happens. Maybe you don't even substitute Benzema, but you put him as a creative source rather than a closer. You know your player, you see he's not gonna pull any trees out, and you bring on another goal scorer.

    i love stats more than any other guy here, but as a professor of mine said, we can both use the same statistic to come to a different conclusion.
     
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  16. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    So you think 1,014 minutes (most of which were in the form of 5-10 minute cameos) are enough for a striker to learn some chemistry with other players and to get more confidence?
    Even a 19 year old Morata in 2012-2013 (had both Benzema and Higuain as competition) got slightly more minutes than Jovic did last season, Jese in 2013-2014 got more minutes and Higuain in 2006-2007 also got more than twice as many minutes in just half a season.
     
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  17. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    You don't sign someone for 60M and play them as little as we have. The same goes for the 50M player. 110M in investment that is being wasted.
     
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  18. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    The amount of money we’ve shit away we could have signed Mbappe last summer for the fee of 300ME
     
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  19. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    No one should be surprised at any of this, standard for years now
     
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  20. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    He doesn't have to. He must be given a 10-match run to find form.

    This from the same people who literally can't handle any dropped points. Everytime we don't win they melt down and turn the forum into a shitshow because they don't like the manager.
     
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  21. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    What about the €130M player who we try to play all the time but everyone (including myself) doesn't want always playing?

    Why is it our stances are so dramatic and change so sharply?

    The only victim is Militao. Even in Villareal you shit or you get off the toilet. Militao never really got the chance to shit.
     
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  22. Glide84

    Glide84 Member+

    Jan 10, 2012
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    This would be a great outcome for everyone. Either bring him back or sell to recoup the fee.

    Definitely two camps here reading the posts. Hazard, Isco, Marcelo, and Asensio get minutes... only the last one has showed a little recent promise but still not convinced. Yet others who have equally contributed little as frozen out who are younger who could shine.

    Keep reading Zidane is screwing things up with the younger players with little interest in playing them or arguments need a run of games to prove things. Truth is somewhere between those points.
     
  23. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Hazard is a wasted investment in a different way. I mean when he's healthy at least we're playing him.

    I think there is a clear philosophical break between the president and the coach. You can't have the club invest that much money into players the coach won't play or doesn't want, and on the other hand, you can't let the coach decide what players to recruit because coaches are temporary. It certainly that summer will cost us dearly, particularly if there is an opportunity to snatch talent like Cammavinga, Haaland, or Mbappe this summer and we don't have the funds to capitalize.
     
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  24. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    it's not enough to play him, he was asked to do things at times which he clearly doesn't have the skillset for. Very few attackers can play the role that Benz does and Jovic isn't one of them.
     
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  25. AriGold

    AriGold Member+

    Jul 13, 2007
    Göteborg, Sweden
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    Real Madrid
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    Sweden
    It's not that he doesn't do what Benz does. It's that he does nothing. When he played he was a blackhole on the field. Glad he's gone. Hopefully he can regain form so we can recoup some of the money wasted.
     
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