I would strongly recommend you steer away from sentences like "Jamie Vardy is a main superstar of the team." Because it makes it sound like he was the only super star in a team of underdogs, when at least 3 players played at elite level in him, Mahrez, and Kante. Even if he is in your opinion the biggest contributor, by omitting other names, it might give the wrong impression. It's like if someone said Deco was the main superstar of Porto 2004. Are they right? Maybe, but then people who don't know the team may also not understand that the likes of Ricardo Carvalho was also playing at an elite level.
Jamie vardy was the main superstar of the team despite the fact riyad mahrez 2015/16 was voted PFA Players' Player of the Year PFA Fans' Player of the Year Leicester City Player of the Year Whoscoreds highest rated PL player Double digits goals and assists 3.5 dribbles per match with alot defensive work(1.4 tackles per match) which is a very high number for a forward Ngolo Kante finished 6th place Jamie vardy 9th place I'd also heavily dispute Verona winning the scudetto was the greatest achievement in football history Its just part of the spin and propaganda fueled by certain posters attempting to inflate a certain period of football history Nottingham forest winning the European cup twice under the tutelage of Brian clough is orders of magnitude greater than winning a domestic league in a very overrated period in Serie A history If Verona 84/85 then why not Napoli 86/87 Was Verona that much more of an underdog? I really don't think so Other noteworthy things Before coming to prominence at Leicester city riyad mahrez was plying his trade in the 2nd division of french football We already know the well publicised story of vardys come up through the leagues Same applies to Kante They were all relative late bloomers and a gamble if you will with no real proven track record in the top flight Someone like Elkjaer was already well established in the Belgian division and a known quantity before coming to Verona To conclude Jamie vardy was the main superstar of Leicester city because DBS calcio gives him the highest average media rating http://www.dbscalcio.it/sn-risultatiMediaVoto.php That is the extent of the research put in here by Dearman and his blind adherence to their rating system literally every single objective source points towards him being (at best) the 3rd best performer on his team(behind mahrez and kante) The only ones lobbying for him were some (loud)sections of the English press but thats it Everybody knows/knew it was Mahrez Kante Vardy in that exact order of importance
Well, I have no problem about Leicester stars as it was not what I focus on. I'm not even Remember if Vardy got 7.00 and also not look into Dbscalcio but I spontaneously thought of his name and forgot the two without elaboration of superstar names. I incline to Verona instead of Forest mainly because of standard of the league. Forest beat Liverpool is certainly more wonderful than gap between Verona and any other teams in Series A but considering the whole opponents in the league, Verona encountered a tougher jobs. English clubs dominates European football in the late 1970s is acknowledged but the European club competition standard is considered less competitive than the 1980s. All European clubs between 1977 to 1979 are defeated by South American clubs in intercontinental football. Noticeably, there are 4 historical moments that the new promoted team won the top flight title in their first attempt are Everton, Ipswich, Tottenham and Nottingham. Look at other leagues, only Kaiserslautern made it in Germany and there is no case in Spain, Italy and other European nations if I've correctly identified. I also find out in term of statistics that the fluctuation of top teams in England is much more fluctuated than that of other big football nations in the pre-premier league era. So, there are more chances for English small clubs to execute exponential advancement. Maradona was already phenomenal and spot on in 1984 - 1985 result in some degree of expectation that Napoli could win the title soon.
This is a strange way to look at things though. When it comes to incredible moments, the absolute level shouldn't matter that much. For example, one could argue that 2004 European national teams were weaker than usual, or the 15-16 EPL season all the big teams underachieved, and you'd be correct, but it doesn't change the fact that the gap is bigger than in Verona's case. Leicester wasn't a very good champion, but the fact that they were champion at all, was ridiculous. What makes these things incredible is the gap that they have to overcome. I also find it fascinating how when English teams dominate European competitions, it is because the competition is weak. Which then by association downgrades Forest achievement for not only overthrowing their league champion, but their league champion who was the European champion, and then went on to win the European Cup themselves.
I plan to finish it within the weekend 18 July. Anyway, I also plan to enhance the criteria of scoring in which modern players who get a ton of chances like Messi, Ronaldo may get a little lower points.
Hellas Verona's title win in 1984/85 may have had something to do with how referees were randomly selected for matches. Those refereeing arrangements only lasted that one season. Nevertheless, the club had a remarkable run in 1983/84 despite being newly promoted and then the summer signings of Elkjaer and Breigel helped them achieve that much more the following season. One of the reasons why some teams in English football were able to go from the second division to winners of the first division owed to the strength of English division football. After the creation of the EPL, the lower divisions were never the same.
Players Ranking Update (to completely update in Blog in few days) World All-Time Greatest Footballer I have given more weights on trophy bonus and has abolished age bonus in this list because it is unfair for modern players who are in a more risky circumstance to get injury. Based on this new calculation, Messi remains stand on the podium as the best ever beating Pele by margin of 0.3. Although weight of trophy bonus is increased in ratio to basic score, the ratio between world cup and UCL trophy bonus remains constant and not make world cup winners get advantageous. I think it is an ancient idea to expect the best ever must win world cup title and I'm one of antagonists to this condition. I thought to set point deduction for players who successfully cheated opponents most prominently Maradona in his hand of god but I have no access to all cheating data for all relevant players so I can't make it for Maradona alone. Anyway, his ranking must be able to sustain his place 3rd best ever regardless of being deducted or not. Top 50 Positional Hall of Fame (Main Hall) Goalkeeper : Neuer has gone up to 5th with equal score to Schmeichel Defender : No Change Central Midfielder : No Change Offensive Lateral : Di Maria come in 46th, Alexis Sanchez out Offensive Midfielder : Kevin De Bruyne enter in 50th, Ademir Da Guia out Forward : Neymar moves to top 20 Striker : Lewandowski ascends to 12th *Kante and Kane is being monitored to qualify for top 50 in the next season 9x100 Positional Ranking List (Minor Hall) New comer in top 100 Goalkeeper : Jan Oblak (Replace Nobert Nogbur) Defensive Midfielder : Joshua Kimmich (Replace Jose Maria Minella) : Casemiro (Replace Victor Mees) Forward : Kylian Mbappe (Replace Charlie Buchan) Striker : Romeo Lukaku (Replace Oscar Miguez)
International Legendary Museum (Update in First Eleven) Belgium : De Bruyne to replace Scifo Switzerland : Yan Sommer to replace Sechehaye The Memorial of Football Victory (Ranking of nations and clubs) This is lasted update in 2017 and I plan to backward update after 2022 World Cup.
Thanks for the updates. Any plans to update the Positional Annual Best Player for 2020? Also to make a team for the second half of the 2010s and the team of the year for 2020 in your World's Eleven Players of All-Time page?
@Dearman There needs to be a distinction between Messi his first half la liga 2020/21 and second half the first half where he couldn't even buy a goal from open play In the second half he wasnt a lesser player than Ronaldinho 2005/06 or even Maradona(any of his best seasons in Europe) The performances and data dont lie 📈 Top rated players by league in 2021🏴 Harry Kane - 7.72🇪🇸 Lionel Messi - 9.06🇮🇹 Cristiano Ronaldo - 7.66🇩🇪 Jadon Sancho - 8.15🇫🇷 Aurelien Tchouameni - 7.75 pic.twitter.com/JTE7v3ZUiu— WhoScored.com (@WhoScored) March 23, 2021 9.06 over that amount of games(January to March 2021 at least)is really otherworldly Id propose that Cristiano Serie A 20/21 is also split into 2 The first half being supreme world class(0.50) The second being ordinary world class(0.5) Between August 2020 and january 2021 he was above a standard/typical world class level ⏱️ Cristiano Ronaldo is averaging a goal or an assist every 57 minutes of league action for Juventus this season (14 goals, 2 assists)🤯 It's his best rate since 2014/15 (every 48.4 mins) when he scored 48 goals and registered 16 assists in La Liga 🤷♂️ He is 𝟯𝟱... pic.twitter.com/Qh1NoPClNZ— WhoScored.com (@WhoScored) January 4, 2021 I don't know what to say if you think arguably Ronaldos best ever international tournament was only a supreme international class level. This is really a fictional assertion. The fact remains his 5 goals in the group of death placed him right at the top of Whoscored/sofascores ranking system at 36 years old(his all round outside of goals was of a world class standard)
World Annual Awards of the Century The Best players of the seasonal years 1. Lionel Messi Thanks for reminding me. I have done it.
It is OK to raise Messi Level in second half to supreme-world-class. I don't think he achieved his best peak in the last season comparing to 2011 - 2012 when his agility was noticeably dropped. I think whoscore isn't resolute the level of opponents across era. If Messi obtained 9.00 in 2012, it has never been standardized to 2021.
Xavi Hernandez has been included in top 50 Best ever Based on a new adjustment in criteria which applied more weight of trophy bonus, Xavi has entered to top 50. It is founded that Stanley Matthews is too far from being qualified for top 50 for his performance and history bonus and his best place should be "Honorable Mention". Fritz Walter could be the same case as Matthews but his overall score remains adequately bring him to stay at 50th. Xavi Hernandez. Trophy Bonus Coefficient Coefficient is based on level of influence. For Example, Pele, Maradona, Messi will get full coefficient at 1. For defenders like Maldini, Baresi, Facchetti and second level world-class likes Iniesta and Xavi obtains lower coefficient at 0.75.
I also meant the Positional Annual Best Player in your Positional Hall of Fame. Feel like you are placing too much weightage on the Euros. Sterling had a poor club season and Jorginho probably shouldn't be that high on any Best Player lists. But I guess historically, a lot of players have won awards based on big tournament performances without scrutinizing their club seasons that closely.
Thanks for addressing this issues. I've actually thought my calculation system has some flaws to allow players whose the team is successful in international tournament get too high advantageous. Although I've compensated ratio for the case of entire absence in international tournament but didn't apply this compensation ratio to the case of players who the team didn't win the trophy (partial absence). For Example, when Poland disqualified at first round of Euro, the weight of national team part for Lewandowski is just 30% x (0.775) = 23.25 (30 = competition weight, 0.775 is round weight). That means the entire amount 6.75 % is lost but it is fair to make compensation ratio 50% of 6.75 should be equitably redistributed to all competitions. It will be burdensome for me to enhance and reimplement this calculation method because I have to manually revise all years but I have no choice. When I finish, I will back to inform again.
OK I have a solution on the system of annual world best player. After make a trial in five years of awards, I think it is workable and tenable in the result of calculation. I compensate ratio for full absence at 0.75 and 0.5 for partial absence (disqualify, not first 11 or Injury). I will go through all years and conclude the all-time lists.
I know the post within the quoted section is an older one mate, but I just noticed that it should say 8 assists for Maradona (arguably with one coming off though, but not more than that I think) This is my post from Vegan's Serie A ratings thread And this is Trachta's table Trachta's table for Baggio does show 6 assists like you quote though (as it's one season I don't mind doing a quick check to make sure my method agrees with that tally via Youtube, so I can do that after this post - I'll only check Serie A, although 6 in the league would mean no assists in any other competition if the overall tally of 6 is correct of course) I don't disagree that Baggio was something of a phenomenon at Fiorentina anyway (without attempting to offer an estimate about whether he should be thought of in a similar vein to Maradona of 84/85 - pointing out how well he did vs top teams in terms of end product is a fair line of discussion though, while I guess on the other hand the best Maradona performances might have been deemed better or more frequent albeit I'd need to look at Vegan's thread closely to break that down...but maybe Italian sources wouldn't be expected to be biased against an up and coming Italian star, even if perhaps they could be cautious about over-hyping and they typically didn't hand out fantastic grades very easily anyway). EDIT - Roma were certainly a top team in 84/85 though, for clarification I would suggest, based on their standing over previous seasons (although I can understand the doubt based purely on the 7th place and not a big amount of goals scored even for that league in that era...even if the low goals conceded tally is more relevant in terms of Maradona's two assists vs them as shown below). Meanwhile Milan had a pretty good season, finishing top 5, although the Maradona assist was for an own goal of course vs them (I guess they count in all but the most strict assist definitions whereby only passes to team-mates would do) Napoli - Roma 1-2, serie A 1984 85, da novantesimo minuto - YouTube Roma - Napoli 1-1 - Campionato 1984-85 - 27a giornata - YouTube Possibly nowadays the Maradona one vs Milan would count as a Maradona goal, rather than own goal and assist anyway 1984-85 21aG Milan - Napoli 2-1 Servizio RAI DS - YouTube (1:42)
Ok, so Baggio Serie A assists in 89/90, as per Youtube (unfortunately though several games/goals not available actually - a handfull or so, but it's possible some extra assists are on Matigol's video we could add as long as we check they are not accidentally 88/89 ones or something, or Transfermarkt somehow has other ones not on Youtube): Udinese (a) 1 (Buso) (But also these 'contributions', which of course are outside of what OPTA and Trachta would count up as assists for example - I haven't checked all penalties he scored to add any he won himself here btw although he did get one vs Lecce at home for example) Free-Kick won for Kubik goal vs Juventus (a) Pre-assist (at least 2nd to last Fiorentina player to be involved) for Dell'Oglio goal vs Milan (a) Shot hit the bar and fell to Dell'Oglio who scored vs Inter (h) Pre-pre assist vs Lecce, and pre-assist on an own goal too when one Lecce player kicked his cross against another! (h)
Transfermakt just has one assist noted I see (but for the Dell'Oglio goal vs Inter, that happened after a Baggio shot hit the bar after his free-kick had been blocked, not for the goal vs Udinese as shown below) UDINESE-FIORENTINA 1-1 SERIE A 1989-90 SPECIALE INTERVISTA BAGGIO-ZIRONELLI - YouTube (5:13) But yeah, I wouldn't be satisfied with a tally of one Serie A assist because of those few games where other Fiorentina players scored goals but I can't find the footage on Youtube.... I thought I'd try 88/89 too (I already know I saw a few Baggio assists, but I'll see now for how many Fiorentina games there is footage available): Cesena (a) 1 (own goal - again nowadays this would probably be deemed a Baggio goal actually, rather than an assist) Lazio (h) 1 (Borgonovo) Roma (h) 1 (Borgonovo) Ascoli (h) 1 (Borgonovo) *Slightly unclear if any deflection from Baggio's free-kick though Cesena (h) 2 (Dunga, Borgonovo) Sampdoria (a) 1 (Borgonovo) I did manage to see all Fiorentina goals actually for that season, and Baggio had pre-assists vs Juventus, Napoli and Como at home too, and I think maybe vs Juventus away from a free-kick also maybe but it's not really clear. I remembered I'd analysed his grades from the 1989 calendar year a bit (although mixing sources), with the second half of 88/89 being a spell where his ratings were very good in general: Matigol's videos are great (and his contribution on Youtube is much more than mine, and most people's), but I would say it's not unprecedented for a video title to potentially mislead on his channel - I seem to remember one for Weah with 95/96 in the title (not necessarily saying all footage was from that season though I guess) with goals/assists from other AC Milan seasons too for example, so maybe it has happened similarly with that Baggio video but I haven't tried to check that as yet anyway....
Yeah, as one example, this assist vs Roma (in a Play-Off for Uefa Cup after the end of the main 88/89 season) is on the Matigol video I notice: 1988/89, Serie A, Fiorentina - Roma 1-0 (Spareggio Uefa) - YouTube (0:43 here, and 3:28 on the Matigol video)
Good info. I will have sometime to adjust it. I agree he is underrated in my list for 1989 - 1990 season.
World Annual Award of the Century - Implementation of new criteria After full implementation of new methodology of world annual best player, there are some of major alterations in the list but the top legends like Messi, Pele, Maradona, etc are modified in a few medals. I also add some of 4th and 5th to some years if they're considered competitive enough. Positional Hall of Fame : New modification Thomas Muller : I just update score of Thomas Muller and now he has come into top 50 at 43th forward of all-time. Raymond Braine is out of the list. Zlatan Ibrahimovic : He was forgotten by me to follow and his recent performance has enabling him to budge to 23th forward of all-time. I have also gone over the calculation formula and there is no error of calculation found for other players. Lewandowski and Hazard : Recently just found some mistakes in calculation formula for Lewandowski and Hazard. They have been vaulted into 7th striker of all-time and 17th wingers of all-time, respectively. As a consequence of removal of Age bonus, some rankings are fractionally adjusted as well.