Utah Royals relocating, RSL next?

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Yoshou, Dec 5, 2020.

  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    This has been floating around RSL land for awhile and it probably deserves a thread of its own, but the first shoe may have just dropped on whether RSL will be leaving Utah or not. The NWSL’s Utah Royals have been sold to an ownership group in Kansas City and the players have been notified to prepare to move back to KC.

    https://www.sltrib.com/sports/rsl/2020/12/05/utah-royals-relocate/

    Whether this is good news or not for RSL staying in Utah isn’t entirely clear as it could actually make it easier to sell the club to a local buyer if there isn’t an NWSL club included in the sale.
     
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  2. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL may indeed be next but I am putting a question mark in the title. :)
     
  3. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Haha. Thought I had put one in there.
     
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  4. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

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    Oct 18, 2020
    Wow I hope not. This would be terrible for the fans and for the league as a whole. Salt Lake City is such a cool market for the league to be in and the stadium and facilities they’ve built there are spectacular. It’s a shame this question is even on the table.
     
  5. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Yeah that was pretty asinine to put it without a ? in the title.
     
  6. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know what this is: it's the one sure way to end that lawsuit the Kansas City Royals brought a couple of years ago about the use of the name "Royals" in a sporting sense. Just buy the team and move it back to Kansas City, problem solved!
     
  7. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It does make one wonder where this ownership group was 3 years ago when FCKC was for sale.
     
  8. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sure hope this is a Royals only thing. No reason at all to move RSL. But new ownership is required, and MLS'/Garber's track record is not good in doing right by existing fanbases.
     
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  9. KCbus

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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    1. Sarcastic take: Our team was saved, so whatever. Better them than us.

    2. Serious take: Not buying it. Kansas City already has an MLS team, so whoever is buying the Royals to move them there isn't going to be doing the same for RSL. If they were being bought by a city that had neither MLS or NWSL, I could see a connect-the-dots scenario playing out, but that's not the case. Obviously RSL is going to have something different going on. And being sold doesn't equate to being moved.
     
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  10. BookerT

    BookerT Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    NC
    What does DLH/MLS do if the highest/only bids for RSL come from the groups that submitted expansion bids for Phoenix, Detroit, Las Vegas, or Tampa?
     
  11. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I think the fear from RSL fans is not that RSL are moving to KC, you are correct there. The fear is that selling things off piece by piece makes it easier to move the team.

    If I understand the situation, their awful owner owns RSL, formerly the Royals, a USL team, and the stadium.

    I think he has about a month left before MLS can step in, take control, and sell his franchise/investor share to someone else.
    As Crew fans, that did not go well for us.

    Anyway, I guess the thinking goes that local buyers would be much more interested in keeping the USL & NWSL teams and the stadium. Whilst out of town buyers would just pay for the investor fee and set up shop elsewhere.

    And that selling off stuff piecemeal, instead of all to one buyer, is the track that leads to an out of town buyer.
     
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  12. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Well, they should only accept bids from parties interested/promising to keep the team in Salt Lake. That language should be in the sale contract.

    If MLS wants a team in Vegas, Phoenix, or Detroit, expand to 32.
     
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  13. crew2112

    crew2112 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Dayton, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    If Dave Greeley is within 50 miles of any deal to buy RSL you better raise hell. That man is a butcher of anything MLS. Watch out.
     
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  14. BookerT

    BookerT Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    NC
    That’s my point - what if there aren’t any bidders willing to commit to keeping the team in SLC?
     
  15. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Certainly. I think the key is what you hear coming out of the league. Maybe the Columbus experience will make MLS shy about thinking so cavalierly about moving a team. Garber et al were all too willing to bemoan the lack of corporate support in Columbus, little interest in a local buyer for the club. But it was largely a lie, meant to justify a desire to move the team. If you hear Garber making similar statement about things in SL, worry. But if our experience in Columbus is anything to go by, there are normally investors out there (in the end, there were multiple groups interested in buying the Crew), but they might need to be courted.

    Too, RSL has a nice stadium, a great new training facility. Post-COVID, it's going to be harder for MLS to arrange the kinds of public-private deals that have made similar facilities in other markets possible. Hell, look at NYCFC. Miami's "temporary" stadium. Delays in Nashville. The stadium disaster in Chicago. Why MLS would even consider moving a team out of a modest, but growing market that already has a stadium and training facility in place is beyond me. My guess is, they're not.

    I don't know squat about the Salt Lake City business culture; how deals get done in that city; who the real power brokers are. But I do know about those things in Columbus, and have to assume that SLC has its own version of them. Negotiations to buy the club won't, I assume, be played out in public on the front page of the Salt Lake Tribune.
     
  16. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

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    I would love for San Antonio to be included on that list. L-l-l-l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-v-v-v-v-v-e it.
     

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  17. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

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    #17 Doogh, Dec 7, 2020
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    https://www.rsl.com/post/2020/12/06...rship-utah-royals-fc-group-kansas-city-kansas

    Utah Soccer LLC Transfers Ownership of Utah Royals FC to Group in Kansas City, KS.

     
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  18. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    Noticed on the ESPN crawl that Pat Mahomes of the NFL Kansas City Chiefs, his wife a former soccer player, is getting in on the new ownership of the Royals as the team move to K.C.
     
  19. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    My guess is that DLH's people either weren't finding potential buyers who wanted to buy the full 3-franchise package, or didn't try very hard to find that kind of owner. I don't expect that a move of RSL is very likely. If anything along those lines is happening, it will probably leak very soon.
     
  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Good news for RSL fans.

    In today's State of the League press conference Don Garber said that the investigation into Hansen has been completed and that the league will be taking over the sale.



    More importantly, he said SLC/Sandy has been a great market and MLS has no plans on relocating RSL.

     
  21. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #21 Bill Archer, Dec 8, 2020
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2020
    As a born and raised son of Rochester New York, allow me to remind them that we invented the Royals in 1945, which moved to Cincinnati is 1957 or so, then moved to Kansas City and was rebranded the Kings, which are now in Sacramento.

    KC can't lay claim to it. Just because they stole it 30 years ago doesnt give them squatters rights.
     
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  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
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    Houston Dynamo
    As a counterpoint, I'm not from Kansas City but did exhibit cattle at the American Royal in Kansas City. That stock show, one of the big four in the U.S., started in 1899 and got the name "American Royal" a couple of years later. Among a certain group of people "Royal" has been associated with Kansas City for a long time.

    Extra note: I was also a FFA member. That organization was founded at the American Royal in 1928 and the annual national convention was in KC for a long time.
     
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  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
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  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Salt Lake keeps copying Denver. Second to get an MLS team, second to have Beckerman on their MLS team, second to win the Rocky Mountain Cup, second to have their MLS team bought by their NBA team owner...

    (Yes I'm leaving a hanging fastball over the plate here, waiting to see if a Salt Lake fan is going to drill it into the seats)
     
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  25. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But first to win MLS Cup!

    As a Crew fan whose team lost to both RSL and Colorado in the POs during each team's final runs, I remember both losses well. Screw you, Conor Casey!
     
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